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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by gofreddygo »

rsynnott wrote: post #228
gofreddygo wrote: post #117

Yeah whatever. One thing all the iPhone SE reviews from the pundits I've read miss is how Apple, mighty Apple, with all it's brand loyalty and design excellence was forced by the market to take a stable version of the design and release it for a third of the cost of its flagship. Reasons? * iPhone sales have been dropping consistently. * No new gimmick to drive flagship price higher. * Economy is heading to the dumps…

Like the first SE (and the far less successful iPhone 5C) this is an attempt to sell to a more price-sensitive market that wouldn't consider their flagships in the first place. It's also not exactly unique; Samsung has everything from 100 euro units to those folding phones that cost twice as much as an 11 Pro, say. The original SE didn't noticeably cannibalise the flagships, and it was in some ways a more appealing d…

The first SE and the 5C were redesigned models. This version is unique in that it is not unique. Its a goddam rebrand of the iphone 8 sold at prices cheaper than any of the iphones ever. 5c was priced $649 for a 64 GB unlocked version.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by kipchak »

zapzupnz wrote: post #63
justinator wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you can get cameras now without a phone bundled with them.

The best camera is the one you have with you at all times, at the exact moment you need it.

I've heard nice things about the Ricoh GR series for something a little more cumbersome than a phone camera but a lot smaller than a DSLR.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by gruez »

dewey wrote: post #172
mtarnovan wrote: post #138

> So, yes, a $400 iPhone SE bests a $3,000 top-of-the-line MacBook Pro in single-core CPU performance. Lies, damn lies and benchmarks? I don't believe that for a second.

Why? The iPad Pro is beating MacBook's in benchmarks all the time.

In what, geekbench? I'd reserve my judgement until there's some real life benchmark (eg. cinebench).

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by rsynnott »

gofreddygo wrote: post #241
rsynnott wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the first SE (and the far less successful iPhone 5C) this is an attempt to sell to a more price-sensitive market that wouldn't consider their flagships in the first place. It's also not exactly unique; Samsung has everything from 100 euro units to those folding phones that cost twice as much as an 11 Pro, say. The original SE didn't noticeably cannibalise the flagships, and it was in some ways a more appealing d…

The first SE and the 5C were redesigned models. This version is unique in that it is not unique. Its a goddam rebrand of the iphone 8 sold at prices cheaper than any of the iphones ever. 5c was priced $649 for a 64 GB unlocked version.

This is an iPhone 8 with mostly iPhone 11 internals, costing $400.

The original SE was a 5S with mostly 6S parts, costing $400.

The 5c was an outlier; it was both more expensive and more unique.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by man007 »

I prefer the smaller form factor. I'd like to move to a more secure/privacy conscious OS, so I am thinking about switching to this iPhone. Currently using a Pixel 3, I like the phone and well embedded in Google's ecosystem. Wondering how hard it'll be to switch over

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by bluntfang »

m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

>the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed.

Do people really not use a case with their phones?

edit: Can anyone explain the downvotes? is this a bad question?

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by viridian »

kabacha wrote: post #239

The obsession with this phone never ceases to amaze me. I'm really trying to get it but I think there's very vocal minority discussing this: american iphone fans. I would never imagine buying a 64GB non-expandable phone with a single camera and such absurd screen for 480€ in 2020. New 128GB+sd slot s10e is around 450€ and that did small form factor _right_. For a tech forum the iphone se obsession just seems so alien…

I used android phones up until like two years ago when I got the SE. You have to understand that a huge chunk of SE owners are in the same boat for the same reason. The Android market let small phones die, and so a 6 year old apple product is now literally the best option in the market. I still don't like Apple's ecosystem, but the phone is small and fits my use cases.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by Tepix »

bluntfang wrote: post #246
m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

>the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. Do people really not use a case with their phones? edit: Can anyone explain the downvotes? is this a bad question?

Never.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by derefr »

ksec wrote: post #97
derefr wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's strange that we have yet to see a phone (from anybody, not just Apple) that's the size of the old SE but with a full bezel-less display. I feel like so many people would want one. When you've got 100% screen-to-body ratio, you don't need the screen to actually be all that big, for it to be "big."

>It's strange that we have yet to see a phone (from anybody, not just Apple that's the size of the old SE but with a full bezel-less display. Simply because it cant be done yet. No Notch is small enough for an old SE Size iPhone with Face ID. The Screen would measure in exactly the same 4.7" except it would be 19.5:9 Ratio. I think we are still a few years away from that possibilities.

Maybe that’s Apple’s reasoning for not doing it. On an Android phone, it could just be a fingerprint-reader-on-the-back device with no face unlock at all. (Heck, there’s gotta be a market for people who don’t care about front-facing cameras at all! They make laptops without cameras, don’t they?)

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by mikestew »

iso1631 wrote: post #207
swiley wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My iPhone SE got destroyed and I got a 7 to replace it since they wouldn’t give me another SE. The larger screen isn’t nicer and just makes the phone harder to hold. I actually feel like I have a harder time touching things accurately as well, I think the 7 detects touches at a different place on your finger. And of course I can’t use headphones, I ordered a dongle from newegg and waited weeks and now it hasn’t come.…

I've had smart phones for over a decade, and a mobile phone for 2, I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance. I have however had a smashed screen once, and the bigger a phone is, the harder it is to hold, the more likely the screen will smash The old macbooks were great with the maglock power lead not pulling them off the desk. I believe new ones have downgraded the connector?

I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance.

Then it's not for you. But given that phone manufacturers go to the expense of putting water-sensing strips inside phones, someone is going to put that water resistance to use.

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