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Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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I left home at 15 and some adults who worked together let me move in with them and be their maid. I paid $150 a month in rent and got $10 a month to live on. I worked out how to live off Milo (a Jamaican malt supplement), Chips Ahoy cookies (1/2 a cookie a day for a treat) and dumpster dived vegetables (mostly cabbages and carrots). I lived like this for years, when I got my first real jobs I made sure to save at lea…

I hope I'm not reading this as a refutation capitalism as exploitation-based economics. I could carry on about that, but will pick up something:

> I've never purchased shampoo or paid for a hair cut - I am female [me: this choice of quote has nothing to say about gender, please read on]

In the Soviet Union, there was a growing demand for consumer goods. Government fought to reach a balance on whether it was time to undertake those goals, and how much of it should be handled by the secondary market.

After WWII, the United States switched to a highly commercial culture of consumer debt financing, a general consumerist focus. This put the communist nations, themselves developing rapidly, under even more strain to give citizens what they saw the West was enjoying. This may have been premature, and some might argue lead to an untimely end for the USSR.

What's interesting about your story is you we're living in a world of few consumer goods, like in the era before and during Khrushchev.

So where capitalism used the newly developing marketing gimmicks to both sell consumer goods at home, and undermine the priorities of People's government abroad--you, at least, are in a place where those superfluous goods are not a sign of victory over People's governments, but actually wasteful and unattainable. At least if one wants to move out of their car one day.

I'm sure none of this is lost on you as a writer of... what was it... Biden speeches? [Fake edit: the apocalypse!]

If we are rejecting the consumerism that served some role in bringing down the USSR, perhaps it's not a wishful thought that class consciousness growing. Maybe we're fatigued, ready to accept a world without the gimmicks parading themselves as innovation and surviving for years a household names off investor money and debt like a Potemkin village.

This is a good practice, living off less, but it's a blow to Western economic theories that have bought their way into textbooks. But what's to come down the pipeline isn't just the growth of China, but also Africa and partnering nations that we're used to exploiting (look at the grooming of India as a place of new manufacture). We'll soon see less opportunities to exploit, higher prices and, well, Socialism or barbarism.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Excellent guide and very nutritious. On a side note I wonder how the pandemic will impact food service in the long run from the perspective that before the pandemic many people never prepared their own meals. Now in many areas people are for the first time limited to groceries and produce instead of restaurants and fast food. If people continue their own food preparation moving forward this will have interesting cons…

"New cars" is obviously poor decision making, but aren't cell phones cheaper than food nowadays? It should not be surprising that poor people have cell phones. The gadgets we once thought of as luxuries will continue to decrease in real cost.

Perhaps but price regression doesn’t make anything more imperative to survival, such as feeding your children. Given the comparison of purchasing an additional cell phone and plan for your child versus feeding your child which is more important? Especially considering the price of school lunch is already so heavily subsidized.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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I'm responding to your comment. Scroll up to see my initial interest in this thread. Yes, State as in New Jersey. As in, you're in the United States. Where there are far better WIC-like programs than many other countries. You are better off than people who are happier than you are. Poverty is relative. It sucks, but if you are eating when there's no pandemic, a very slight change over a long time will prepare you for…

I'm responding to the dickhead making generalization about poor people buying tvs iphones and eating avocado toast or whatever politically motivated talking point they are clearly pushing. I'm definitely not responding/repudiating to your point.

Ok, but I've gotten out of my state and met with lots of people on assistance, and that is rampant in the US in a way that's almost unheard of in other countries I've worked in. I've seen people coast off the system, but they still generally live somewhat minimalist lives. Having new flat screens and game consoles, cases of Mountain Dew and a pantry full of nothing but prepackaged junk food when you can't make rent? I know how that sounds like a judgmental stereotype, but that seems like a uniquely American epidemic to me.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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"New cars" is obviously poor decision making, but aren't cell phones cheaper than food nowadays? It should not be surprising that poor people have cell phones. The gadgets we once thought of as luxuries will continue to decrease in real cost.

And they aren't buying new cars. They are more often buying junk used cars with predatory financing contracts ( https://youtu.be/4U2eDJnwz_s ) Parent poster was just spreading Fox "News" propaganda.

I am not right wing and I am not sure how you came that conclusion since you don’t know me and are unfamiliar with observations of my child’s school.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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"These recipes will be based on Potatoes, Milk, Flour, Eggs, and Kale. (Honorable mention to Pinto Beans and Carrots)" Been a week since I saw any of those in shops, and can't recall the last time I saw kale. As always the cheap staple foods and tins are the first to go in panic buying and you just know that all the stuff we usual meh at and lob into the food bank box's are the exact stuff people are now stocking and…

If you are lucky enough to have any land at all, kale is extremely easy to grow

I don't, but have a few herbs growing I kicked off 2 months ago indoors on the window ledge. Oh and some spring onions, brought a bunch months ago, used for crispy aromatic duck, popped the ends into water and regrown a few times, reminds me I need to pot that now.

Also planted out some sunflowers in the area I'd grown indoors, brighten up the neighbourhood and birds love them. Also some wildflowers I'll be starting soon, ninja out and about in a months time or so as well as some vegetables I don't have space to grow in my flat, but hey, planning ahead and may work out well for the greater good and good spirits are just as important than your 5 a day.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Its worth clarifying that the article is specifically addressing the fallout from the pandemic: Unemployment and poverty due to failing economies and shuttered restaurants and bars. In the US, Despite our country having vast and endless supplies of food from megafarms and their accompanying subsidies, there is very little safety net in America to ensure anyone is fed at all once they are unemployed. worth posting, a…

since you seem to be from Germany, do you now a good recipe of a Genetztes (Bauernbrot)?

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Is this some kind of specialist flour? 1 USD per pound seems high.

King Arthur flour (one of the big national brands) at Walmart in 5 pound bags. They probably have their own brand which is cheaper.

King Arthur is absurdly expensive. I'd say Gold Medal is a much better benchmark and it's usually about half the price.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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You know the annoying thing about potatoes here? It’s ONLY russets. Yellow, red, and whatever the black ones are called, all day long. It’s like people know something about Yukon/russets that I don’t. I think sweet potatoes (more nutritious) are even on sale.

you know the cool thing about potatoes? the parts [eyes, sprouts] that we dont eat can be used to grow more potatoes

If your emergency plan is; “ima let these sprout and grow more potatoes”... but you aren’t hoarding oils, yeast, flour, beans and rice, cans of meat... well, that’s an interesting plan :)

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Sure on average but whilst that is often bounded about, most people are not average. Bit like having 10 people with shoe sizes of 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 so you go, the average size is 8.5 and proceed to make 10 pairs of 8.5 size shoes. Gets down to knowing yourself and how much that differentiates from the average and adjusting accordingly. Alas many look at average and work with that, so somebody small who needs ma…

The variance for muscle density is considerably smaller than the variance in shoe size. https://itis.swiss/virtual-population/tissue-properties/data... In this case the average alone is representative of the population without any additional qualifications. Please don’t drink and drive.

Be nice to be able to click thru and see the scale of those studies as many have very few studies and without knowing the size and scale of data, I'm still open minded and SMD variations from what I have read, vary upon a greater scale.

Though handy site and will only become more handy with more data sets, but being able to click-thru to and see those studies would go a long way as not all studies are equal in quality and credibility in much the same way that people would believe data comming from `John Hopkins University` about viral data over say data comming out of `Really Greatest University in the entire World`.

I'd add, don't drink and operate any form of transport, lost cousin decades ago to a drunk cyclist. Me, I don't drive, walk and public transport, so these days, walk if needs demand. Though probably handful of times I've even drunk even close to any limit. But very mindful that not everybody is as thoughtful of others, though easier to identify them as they are the ones with 4x4's full of toilet roll :).

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