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Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

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Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#101

Post by Zenst »

"These recipes will be based on Potatoes, Milk, Flour, Eggs, and Kale. (Honorable mention to Pinto Beans and Carrots)"

Been a week since I saw any of those in shops, and can't recall the last time I saw kale.

As always the cheap staple foods and tins are the first to go in panic buying and you just know that all the stuff we usual meh at and lob into the food bank box's are the exact stuff people are now stocking and hoarding up upon, pasta, meal in a tin and all those other cheap meal options are now everybody's emergency cupboard of hardness.

Coz, 6 months or so - food banks are going to be flooded with everybodies reality hoardings, just to appease their own karma when in reality the damage is already done and the impact of fear has been born and played out.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#102

Post by BurningFrog »

smnrchrds wrote: post #75
BurningFrog wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the UK also have price gouging laws in this crisis? Those are what produce the empty shelves.

Do you have any evidence for this? I don't meant referring to economics textbooks. I mean concrete evidence that empty shelves right now due to this epidemic are the results of price gouging laws. For example, showing that states with price gouging laws have empty shelves and states without do not, when controlling for other factors.

> I don't meant referring to economics textbooks.

If you don't allow referring to the vast empirical literature on price controls, you've already decided what you want to believe.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#103

Post by rolph »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #88
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truth. But, people aren’t thinking clearly. Two things could make this situation a lot worse. 1. A worker strike because of panic, or overwork, or opportunity, or inequality, or whatever. I hope everyone has realized the truck drivers and shelf stockers are way more important than Hollywood celebs. But I wouldn’t “rely” on shelves just being magically stocked as panic increases. There is unfortunately a smug level of…

I agree 100%. Hurricane season will start before we're through this. You've still got tornadoes in the midwest. We could have major storms/flooding. All the normal disaster risks are still here.

im sure elevated wildfire risk hasnt gone away for good.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#104

Post by dean177 »

Zenst wrote: post #93
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #83

If you have a way of measuring your body fat to a reasonable degree of accuracy, you can ration your food by knowing how much stored body fat your body can convert into energy per day. Your body can convert roughly 0.9% of your body fat into energy in a day. So if you're 180lbs with 33% body fat, you have 60 lbs of fat on you. You should be able to convert ~0.54lbs into energy, which at ~3500 kcal per lbs comes out t…

That's based upon normal metabolism and if you calorie reduce your metabolisim will also slow down, you also need vitamins to help the body work and some will be need to break down fat into energy. Vitamins and minerals are not something you can reduce without effect/impact. So do factor that into any calorie reduction. This and body fat only goes so far and as a metric is often flawed in measurement as any rugby or…

> muscle weighs more than fat

On average, the density of fat is 0.9 g/mL, while the density of muscle is 1.1 g/mL.

It’s just not that much

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#105

Post by BurningFrog »

ForHackernews wrote: post #76
BurningFrog wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the UK also have price gouging laws in this crisis? Those are what produce the empty shelves.

yeah, much better to have £100/dozen eggs. That way, at least they'll be on the shelves so rich people can still have them.

Market prices keep items on the shelf, and also incentivizes increased production, and redirecting supplies to where demand is highest.

Price fixing incentivizes hoarding and empty shelves.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#106

Post by chantelles »

I left home at 15 and some adults who worked together let me move in with them and be their maid. I paid $150 a month in rent and got $10 a month to live on. I worked out how to live off Milo (a Jamaican malt supplement), Chips Ahoy cookies (1/2 a cookie a day for a treat) and dumpster dived vegetables (mostly cabbages and carrots). I lived like this for years, when I got my first real jobs I made sure to save at least 80% of every paycheck. I retired at 35 and now I write about the apocalypse (one feature film, various shorts, one book, graduate degree in Equity Studies/lots of essays and conferences). I know live a very easy comfortable life, but most see me as bizarre because i have no furniture and do not buy any beauty products (I've never purchased shampoo or paid for a hair cut - I am female). There is an equal proportion of happy memories scattered throughout my life, some of my happiest were when I had literally nothing but one dress and 4 pairs of stolen Zellers underwear and was sleeping in a car. The form of our lives impoverishes experience of reality as much, if not more, as the content. It's a whole we do not see for the misplaced desire for displays of wealth over relationships with everything and everyone.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#107

Post by leetcrew »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #22
jacobush wrote: post #11

Eggs and milk are still perishables, especially if electricity is rationed.

Maybe it’s just my area but I’m not seeing any rational panic buying anywhere. My stores have PLENTY of non-perishable items, but you know what’s missing for me? Russet potatoes, bottled water (which will last you like a week without a means to make more), frozen pizzas, bananas, bread, milk, eggs. I don’t get it.

keep in mind X being missing from the shelves doesn't necessarily imply that X is being disproportionately purchased by customers. it can also imply that X is relatively harder to restock. the supply chain can maintain much deeper buffers of canned goods without risking spoilage.

the water is probably panic buying, but the other missing items in your list could just be the result of an above average number of shoppers buying a typical distribution of items. also, you don't consider frozen pizza a non-perishable?

the store I go to seems to have recovered from the initial shock. everything seems to be stocked except sanitizer, which is short everywhere. the only other thing empty is the fresh meat display, which I assume is one of the harder things to restock.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#108

Post by tjr225 »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #88
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truth. But, people aren’t thinking clearly. Two things could make this situation a lot worse. 1. A worker strike because of panic, or overwork, or opportunity, or inequality, or whatever. I hope everyone has realized the truck drivers and shelf stockers are way more important than Hollywood celebs. But I wouldn’t “rely” on shelves just being magically stocked as panic increases. There is unfortunately a smug level of…

I agree 100%. Hurricane season will start before we're through this. You've still got tornadoes in the midwest. We could have major storms/flooding. All the normal disaster risks are still here.

We're all gonna die!!!

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#109

Post by hoka-one-one »

chantelles wrote: post #106

I left home at 15 and some adults who worked together let me move in with them and be their maid. I paid $150 a month in rent and got $10 a month to live on. I worked out how to live off Milo (a Jamaican malt supplement), Chips Ahoy cookies (1/2 a cookie a day for a treat) and dumpster dived vegetables (mostly cabbages and carrots). I lived like this for years, when I got my first real jobs I made sure to save at lea…

I just got laid off and I'n trying to live cheap until I find work.

Re: Eat for $1.50 per Day – Layoffs, Coronavirus Quarantine, Food Shortages

#110

Post by dirtnugget »

chantelles wrote: post #106

I left home at 15 and some adults who worked together let me move in with them and be their maid. I paid $150 a month in rent and got $10 a month to live on. I worked out how to live off Milo (a Jamaican malt supplement), Chips Ahoy cookies (1/2 a cookie a day for a treat) and dumpster dived vegetables (mostly cabbages and carrots). I lived like this for years, when I got my first real jobs I made sure to save at lea…

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