This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
Why dismiss as conspiracy-minded those who raise the possibility of foul play?
I failed to post this the other day (already submitted). Searched HN and it was not here. Probably marked off-topic or similar. When I called it out on an unrelated thread my comment was flagged. I don't see a mechanism on HN to refute "off-topic" posts. Marvin Minsky's relationship with Epstein was not of interest to HN readers but Epstein's death is? Mystifies me…
It was submitted several times, and instantly flagged to death each time. Disappointing.
This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…
Call me naive, but I would simply conclude the jailing facilities are underfunded and unable to prevent someone from committing suicide. I just can't imagine someone being able to order such a murder. There would be too many people involved and risks of getting caught.
Look, even if video evidence emerges of Epstein kicking the chair out from under his own feet, everyone and their dog could see (and predicted repeatedly!) that he was a risk for either murder or suicide while awaiting trial. Given that the case hinted at an unending multitude of victims whose lives were ruined by a sex trafficking ring that involved elites from the very highest echelons of society, to not have a guard watching him at all times, and a guard watching that guard, and another guard watching that guard, displays a level of "incompetence" or "tight resources" that simply beggars belief.
Somehow 4chan knew it before media reported it: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/222518349/
Maybe because they didn’t need to corroborate the story first.
I have a hard time believing corroborating evidence before publishing is what most news entities do when the news is juicy. There are way too many false news stories to come out.
'Conspiracy' is not synonymous with 'untrue'. I'd advise everyone in the comments to keep that in mind, and state things unambiguously, to avoid arguing past each-other.
I've been curious why "conspiracy theory" is used exclusively as a pejorative. Turns out that Wikipedia defines it as such: > A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful actors, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable. But who gets to define what is more probable? Why not just "when there is no proof (yet)"? But I g…
If you were in his position though why not just kill yourself off? At 66 there’s not much life left to live and what’s left is going to be pretty shitty anyway behind bars.
At 66, there’s another 15-25 years to live. Not trying to comment on the topic at hand, just saying that a lot can happen in 15 years; more than “not much”.
I am not a lawyer, but @klasfeldreports on twitter quotes an unnamed legal source who says: "Background: An important note after Epstein's death: no one else will have standing to challenge the search warrant on his house. Everything will be admissible against any other defendant without possibility of a motion to suppress." So maybe this will be a net good for justice?
Maybe. One hopes this can be salvaged. I guess we may never know who was behind it all pulling the levers. Mr Epstein can’t have been at the top.
Epstein was quite plausibly the chief procurer; he no doubt had a wife array of powerful clients, but there's not a lot of reason to think there was a higher-level mastermind behind Epstein in the procurement operation.