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Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by coldtea »

meowface wrote: post #179
coldtea wrote: post #64

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Which doesn't mean anything really. If you have founded the company and own it, you can be CTO and delegate all the real engineering / research work.

You can, except he says he spends the vast majority of his time doing engineering. There are lots of videos of him with a hardhat on working in his factories. Not PR videos, either. He's the head of product development for the cars, not just the CEO. Hate the guy for his personality all you want; I can certainly understand why. But there's no need to downplay his achievements or skills.

>There are lots of videos of him with a hardhat on working in his factories

That settles it then. Is it a yellow hardhat?

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by coldtea »

Moter8 wrote: post #162
coldtea wrote: post #148

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Just admit it? Being a "sports car" doesn't make it any better, in the same way a Ferrari is not better than a Lexus.

Tesla caused a hype around EV cars and is probably the primary cause as to why everybody is talking about EVs. I doubt regular manufacturers would have begun releasing real EV cars without their pressure.

>Tesla caused a hype around EV cars and is probably the primary cause as to why everybody is talking about EVs

That's not a technology thing though. Just a marketing thing.

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_ea1k wrote: post #180
thisisit wrote: post #130

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Let's assume for a moment this story was about ExxonMobil an oil company, or any company you dislike will you still hold this opinion? Remember whistleblowing as an act requires people to produce confidential internal documents.

If the evidence against XOM was some pictures of some trailers and complaints of the company being disorganized, then yes, I would treat them the same way.

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Post by meowface »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #198
meowface wrote: post #179

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You can, except he says he spends the vast majority of his time doing engineering. There are lots of videos of him with a hardhat on working in his factories. Not PR videos, either. He's the head of product development for the cars, not just the CEO. Hate the guy for his personality all you want; I can certainly understand why. But there's no need to downplay his achievements or skills.

Except the engineering work is usually not done with a hardhat on, "working" on the factory floor... that's production. I guarantee you if you see video of Elon Musk with a hard hat on doing anything other than touring the facility[1], it is marketing. [1]Presumably, if he's down on the factory floor looking at things, he should be wearing a hard hat, so good for him. If he's bolting together cars himself, that's pro…

He walks the factory floor every day wearing a hard hat, looking for process and tech improvements that could be made. He's not physically assembling the cars obviously. The engineering and design work is done in all of the meetings he's in every day, he says.

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Post by yarg »

burtonator wrote: post #205
ams6110 wrote: post #165

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I can conclusively say that I will never be giving Tesla any of my money. I can grant credit where credit is due, Tesla did show the world and the market that an electric vehicle can have appeal and doesn't have to look like a glorified golf cart. But I'm not going to reward them for the appalling behavior of their CEO and/or people acting at his direction in other areas.

He's really gone off the deep end and I'm wondering if this isn't a little bit of mental illness. I'm WAY less bullish on Tesla than I was a year ago. His behavior is insane. The value of the Tesla just isn't there either and it COULD be but the over-promising and under-delivering needs to end.

Severe stress coupled with prolonged sleep deprivation will do that to you.

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Post by thisacctforreal »

drugme wrote: post #140
brudgers wrote: post #66

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I found Bunnie Huang's talk on supply chain security a reasonable picture of the issues underlying the Bloomberg story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As With the caveat that I find Bunnie Huang credible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Huang_(hacker)

Can you TL;DR it for us, please? Specifically - does it make Bloomberg's telling of event more or less credible?

He talks about it very briefly at the end, but basically says it doesn't pass Occam's Razor: there are better ways to implement the hack which can't just be detected with visual inspection.

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Post by choppaface »

jaimex2 wrote: post #222

He is not a whistleblower. Shame on Bloomberg for tainting the word. And he destryoed himself, any company would have thrown the book at any employee who did what he did. He purposely leaked negative and false information of no material consequence to Linet Lopez, one of the top FUD reporters on Tesla at the time. Look up her articles over 2014 - 2017. Her full time job at the time was to trash the Tesla brand. The "…

In what way is what he leaked “false”? Are the Tesla documents and VINS false? Isn’t Tesla’s report to the police objectively more false?

Should we really allow Tesla to get away clean after their report to the police while Jessie Smollett faces felonies?

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