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Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Are we talking about the same windows 10 that blows-up every November to add nonsuch features?

Enterprises that are on Win10 are likely to use LTSB anyway, rendering this moot.

There are ways for us "end-users" to get a hold of LTSC. First download the demo from microsoft then go to ebay to buy a key from some shady guy for 14$. Seems to work for me :P

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Long story, short: 1. Realize the world is moving beyond Windows 2. Cede mobile OS to Android/iOS, that battle is lost. 3. Realize, next great revenue stream is the Cloud (Azure).

The problem is they are no longer best-of-breed for any of their markets, except maybe Office. Microsoft doesn't break out Azure revenue, but by all accounts it's quite small compared to AWS. And Office is very much under threat. If you work with young people you'll notice they tend to prefer G Suite apps over Office - most likely because Google has done a great job getting their software into schools.

>And Office is very much under threat. If you work with young people you'll notice they tend to prefer G Suite apps over Office - most likely because Google has done a great job getting their software into schools.

It is not. Many are switching to Office 365, those who tried GSuite in Enterprise are moving back.

Young people may prefer GSuite, but then they learn the whole world is built on Excel. Eyes opening for every generation of people coming into work how multi billions dollar of revenue dependant on Excel and no one wants to touch it with a ten foot pole.

There were once kids were using Snapchat and said only old people use WhatsApp. I laughed and replied yeah you are right. Then they left their fantasy youth and join the real world, look at what they use for business? WhatsApp ( Or WeChat in China ).

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Long story, short: 1. Realize the world is moving beyond Windows 2. Cede mobile OS to Android/iOS, that battle is lost. 3. Realize, next great revenue stream is the Cloud (Azure).

Regarding #1, eventually I expect Microsoft to release their own Linux distribution and keep Windows as a GUI. I would not be surprised if their failed project Astoria was reused to run android apps on that.

At the rate things are going, may be Microsoft will even open up their Windows kernel, leaving many of the Windows user land and UI proprietary.

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Uh, Azure revenue, by many accounts, is greater than AWS: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobevans1/2018/10/29/1-microsof... https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobevans1/2018/04/27/microsoft-... And sorry, G Suite is a joke compared to desktop Office for serious work. It doesn't matter what the youngin's prefer, what matters is what gets (or facilitates getting) real work done in the enterprise, which generally revolves aroun…

You ever tried actually using Azure `services`? What a joke! On the surface they try to have feature parity with their AWS analogues, scratch the surface any that illusion quickly evaporates. Nowhere close. As for O365 - old mode, still nowhere close to GSuite for new ways of working.

What is this new ways of working? Corporate heavily uses Office across all industries.

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Compare this to Steve Jobs second turn at Apple, in the same short format: 1. Realize Windows has won the PC war. 2. Improve the Mac by calling Next the Mac. Grow the Mac's market share year after year. 3. Concentrate on the next big thing. Ipod, Iphone, Ipad, etc What does that give us? The question why Microsoft is unable to integrate their mobile OS strategically into their Cloud, in order to grow both. (The Mac's…

Mobile is driven by consumer sales, not OEM or corporate.

Like Blackberry used to be?

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post #80

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So, it seems like you are describing the car crash that was Windows 8? Seriously, if you haven't tried Windows 10 since it first came out, try it - I held out on Windows 7 for years, but I'm really glad I switched.

I can’t thing of anything useful that MS added since Windows XP. Going from 16 bit cooperative to 32 bit preemptive in the 3.x to 9x change, useful. Going to multiple accounts with permissions in the 9x to XP change, useful. Rearranging the UI time and again since Vista, and sucking up CPUs with scannning processes, so what? Note that I really only used Windows at work, anyway (instead of Linux, or more recently OSX)…

I see Windows 10 as a part of the continuing evolution of Windows - it's not a million miles away from Windows XP, but I wouldn't want it to be.

Some new features:

- Cortana (I don't use it, but I know lots of people that do)

- The Windows Store and UWP apps

- High DPI support (this is something MS does very well compared to Linux desktops)

- Windows Hello (I find this really for signing in with a fingerprint)

- BitLocker (this is a bit one, IMO)

- Device Guard (Enterprise only, AFAIK. Very usual in certin environments)

- Windows Defender (it's now a 1st class AV - I have no reason to use anything else)

- Window Defender Exploit Guard

- Windows Defender Credential Guard

- Windows Defender ATP (only for large enterprises, but it's amazing)

- Windows S mode (this is a pretty big deal, and it's suitable for a lot of consumers, even if it's not exactly HN users' target market)

- Improved VPN support

- Built-in snipping tool (WIN + SHIFT + S)

- Dark mode (I like this)

- Improved Start Menu (IMO)

- Task switcher

- Action centre

- Improved command prompt (even supports copying with CTRL-C, how incredible!)

- Edge (OK, maybe moot now)

- Multiple desktops (yes, I know these have been a feature of Linux window systems for decades)

I imagine I've left out quite a bit too.

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IIRC the android revenue is rolled into the x-box revenue under some nebulous category when they break out revenue in their earning (forget the exact title). This hides the massive losses they are taking on x-box and all things x-box related. The android revenue is almost pure profit and nearly $2B annually. (they make this money by licencing patents to phone makers that use android such as HTC and Samsung)

Arent most of those patents pure junk? Afair the only valid patent in there was something to do with FAT long filenames , and that one was killed with Linus help back in 2013.

I can't recall but I think many of them were User Interface related and rather specific.

Not like the Apple claim of "Rounded Rectangles" but I will admit that it did appear even at face value that both Apple and Microsoft had a strong case against HTC, Samsung, etc.

But I guess one of these makes better headlines for clickbait. YMMV.

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"What Satya did was change Microsoft's image and culture for the better, insuring Microsoft's cash cows have a future and stay relevant in a world that is changing rapidly with other strong competitors. Ballmer's style of leadership would not fly today. " Totally disagree. Which of MS customers do you think care about 'perception' of how nice the CEO is? Do you think Siemens is going to spend $500M on Google cloud be…

There is one area where Satya is better leadership-wise. The success of Microsoft in the long term ultimately depends on its ability to run a good engineering organization. Everyone at MS knew Ballmer was never an engineer, so he had very little respect from the engineering rank and file. His brash, business oriented personality and the lack of "filter" did not help matters. While it is true that customers largely do…

Does anyone know the major departures during Ballmer? I know the original lead for Microsoft Windows Server Manager and MMC.exe literally quit and morale hit the absolutely floor among the entire organization. He eventually ended up at Amazon and another guy ended up at what became Pivotal.

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I actually like the settings changes. Fewer things on each screen and the search-ability is pretty great now.

Still have to dig several screens deep to access common settings. Still prefer the old-school control panel.

You can find them by typing into the Start Menu.

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Still have to dig several screens deep to access common settings. Still prefer the old-school control panel.

You can find them by typing into the Start Menu.

Just because you can now search for them (a bonus), doesn’t mean they should then be buried (a negative).
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