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Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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I think Israel (and, unlike GP, also Iran) are too small-time to start real global war. They're more the potential Bosnias or Serbias - small, belligerent countries that could drag their patrons into conflict.

Israel has "the bomb", they definitely could start a global war.

Or, Israel having nukes has made their neighbors wary of another attempt at annihilating them, which could trigger a large war.

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So what it is speaking to me is It seems there is a war against Radical religious terrorists which is stateless and more regional, and stopping dictators.

> and stopping dictators If the US cared about stopping "dictators", why are there so many dictators allies of the US?

Because politics and circumstance.

Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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> Not only nationalism. Current conflicts are rooted in the same prejudices as a hundred years ago. The root cause (this idea that somehow my nation/religion/race/etc is superior) Honest question: is it possible in your opinion for someone to not believe "my nation/religion/race/etc is superior" yet still be opposed to globalism? To me, this is what nationalism means, international cooperation while unequivocally mai…

I don't see how nationalism includes international cooperation. At best, it seems to me that international cooperation is a choice a nationalist might consider amongst protectionism, isolationism, imperialism/colonialism, and outright xenophobia.

Do nationalists not engage in mutually beneficial trade out of spite or something? Is there historical evidence of this?

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That's not how these systems work, at least in the US and Russia. "The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner" by Daniel Ellsberg (who was involved in war planning before he leaked the Pentagon Papers) has some fascinating and scary info about this. Apparently there are backup systems in both countries that will fire nuclear weapons automatically (!) at predefined targets if certain cities are hit wit…

The point is more about even countries with a minimal nuclear arsenal being in relatively equal military footing as the countries with large arsenals because no country seems willing to risk losing one of their major cities to nuclear attack. So, threatening 100 cities is about the same as threatening 1 - no one will attack you.

That's pretty much the main reason north Korea hasn't been attacked since the Korean War: even without nuclear weapons, nobody wants to risk war when Seoul is all but guaranteed to be leveled.

Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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post #240

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So what it is speaking to me is It seems there is a war against Radical religious terrorists which is stateless and more regional, and stopping dictators.

> and stopping dictators If the US cared about stopping "dictators", why are there so many dictators allies of the US?

Even if they genuinely cared about it, 90 percents of regimes worldwide are dictatorships or authoritarian regimes. So you can not work with anyone if you have very strong principles.

Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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somehow my nation/religion/race/etc is superior "Somehow". The answer is found quite simply by this formula: "My [whatever] is the [whatever] I belong to." Even if you prove without a doubt that Islam is worse that Christianity, or that one race is worse than another, you won't likely convince the members that they therefore deserve less than they have, or that they should surrender to another. The core tautology sti…

It's quite refreshing, and not a little bit amusing, when you don't belong to anything. The world appears mostly insane.

I like belonging to a country with socialized Medicare, it is refreshing to not have to worry about that cost.

Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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The thing about war is that at some point, the conditions line up where it becomes seen as a solution (if not the only solution), and its not easy to see the point at which that will occur ahead of time. Will China's big sea grab start a war? So far, they've been able to smother any of their neighbor's push back, and have just ignored any international rulings against them. What about when they invade Taiwan, which t…

I find it laughable that you completely disregarded USA as one of the other "aggressive, belligerent" countries out there...

Actually this is debatable. The USA has the first military power in the whole world and could go and invade a bunch of countries if they wanted to and nobody would oppose them. Since they are not doing so, its hard to call them belligerent. The British Empire was way worse than the USA all things considered.

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USA's bombing list for the last 20 years alone speaks for itself: Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Yemen 2002 Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular basis) Iraq 2003-2015 Afghanistan 2001-2015 Pakistan 2007-2015 Somalia 2007-8, 2011 Yemen 2009, 2011 Libya 2011, 2015 Syria 2014-2016

So what it is speaking to me is It seems there is a war against Radical religious terrorists which is stateless and more regional, and stopping dictators.

As long as Saudi Arabia is one of Americas "greatest" allies there is no leg to stand on arguing any aspect of US foreign policy involves a moral war against totalitarianism.

Re: Reasons to Fear Another ‘Great War’

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USA's bombing list for the last 20 years alone speaks for itself: Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Yemen 2002 Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular basis) Iraq 2003-2015 Afghanistan 2001-2015 Pakistan 2007-2015 Somalia 2007-8, 2011 Yemen 2009, 2011 Libya 2011, 2015 Syria 2014-2016

So what it is speaking to me is It seems there is a war against Radical religious terrorists which is stateless and more regional, and stopping dictators.

You mean war against radical religious terrorists and dictators that are not allies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan and etc?

Countries which support the Al-Nusra front, which was affiliated to Al-Qaeda, which masterminded 9/11 an event which 90% of the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia or other gulf countries and 0 from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria or Iran.

The concept of righteous crusades has been around forever and it's stunning that it still works.

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We are so close, probably within 50 to 100 years, of having technology far beyond what we can comprehend now. We have the chance to be multi-planetary, automate pretty much all work, and fullfil everyone's basic needs...if we don't destroy everything first. I'm going to be real pissed off if we screw this up.

We already have the means to automate pretty much all work and fulfill everyone's basic needs. We choose not to. As for multi planetary, why? Earth is paradise .

You can make anywhere a habitable paradise with enough energy. You don't even really need specific resources since with sufficient energy can you synthesize elements. A lot of people underestimate what the current projected growth of solar potential will lead to this century given its current pace in how much work you can do when energy is cheap and abundant.
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