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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Blender serves as an optimal test case for other large non-profits with online video content that Google may push off YouTube (would love to see PyCon move their archives off as well). Discovery and subscriptions will need to be solved, but that’s not insurmountable (ie RSS). CDNs can be plug and play in front of nginx (if P2P torrent isn't your cup of tea), backend storage can be whatever is cheapest.

If only things were so simple. This reminds me how not too long ago, how everyone was trying to make a clone of HN and Reddit within 24 hours in x programming language. It's one thing make a service for few 100 users, it's a different beast to serve millions of users. In case of Online Videos, it is not only extremely difficult, it still remains very expensive. There is literally a handful of companies who can financ…

> There is literally a handful of companies who can financially and technically pull it off at youtube-scale.

Only a few companies that can do it centrally. Peer to Peer technology was doing it before youtube existed.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Eventually this is going to get them in trouble with the Sherman Antitrust Act. From Wikipedia: > "Innocent monopoly", or monopoly achieved solely by merit, is perfectly legal, but acts by a monopolist to artificially preserve that status, or nefarious dealings to create a monopoly, are not. The purpose of the Sherman Act is not to protect competitors from harm from legitimately successful businesses, nor to prevent…

Oh, yeah, that act worked really well for the salary collusion.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo...

Alphabet/Google/Youtube will just pay the fine, as a cost of doing business.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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The next step will be that you won't be indexed by Google's web search engine if you don't have AdSense for Content ads. Why? Because the steam is going out of Google's ad business[1], and Google has no other business. They have added just about all of the advertising on their own pages they can get away with and they started by squeezing channels with fewer than 4k views a month, and now their squeezing channels tha…

>Don't hate me for it, but my prediction is that the next lifeline Google will reach for

Lifeline? Google is hardly in a bad financial situation.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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In what sense is Blender a customer if they aren't monetizing their videos, though?

In the same sense an open source project is a customer of GitHub's. The exchange of money is not required for someone to be a customer of a service.

Customers pay money. Users provide data and marketing.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Nothing. They gain by use of a chilling effect: most of the seemingly negative actions and expectations they're known for, tend to rebound in favor of their core business. It's all meant to be Logan and Jake Paul and PewDiePie and whatever will drive low-quality mass views so long as the viewer quality isn't so low that they're losing advertisers. At a scale like this, it's just pure statistics. This is not damage. T…

While there are certainly benefits, I can't agree that YouTube loses nothing here. PeerTube is a potential competitor in an ecosystem that's currently functionally monopolistic, and even in a vacuum, having a nontrivial community move to that platform will immediately increase awareness and provide legitimacy. Perhaps more importantly, the FOSS and tech communities are not a vacuum. Google and YouTube in particular h…

I will be watching carefully for another group to make this switch, because the most important person in forming a crowd isn't the leader, it's the first follower.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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YouTube has little to no competition right now. By kicking blender out, they're forcing blender to promote an alternative to YouTube.

That is potentially the real story here, IMO. Ton has a track record of doing amazing things with impossibly small amounts of money. Given that his interests are in (video) content production, I'm not sure YouTube really thought through how this could play out...

Actually the timing (near EU upload filter laws) seems to indicate they didn't dare do this before, and fully realized this danger.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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...wouldn't that be a logical place to post your YouTube criticism? Do you think Martin Luther weakened his message by nailing his criticism of the church to the door of a church? Do you think picket lines are misguided for surrounding their targets when they could picket unrelated areas farther away?

It has become a pretty common complaint lately that people should only have their protests in places where the only people that will see them are the people that already agree with them.

Yeah it's almost like a lot of people really just want everyone to shutup and accept how things are.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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So I had a look at Peertube and had the friendly reminder "The sharing system used by this video implies that some technical information about your system (such as a public IP address) can be accessed publicly." Which is then expanded on in an about page: "PeerTube uses the BitTorrent protocol to share bandwidth between users. It implies that your public IP address is stored in the public BitTorrent tracker of the vi…

That's what peer to peer means.
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