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26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)

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Post by acdha »

exabrial wrote: post #223
acdha wrote: post #85

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> Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group. I think you’re confusing studies with conclusions. What you’re describing doesn’t happen but what is common are studies finding a correlation which leads to someone claiming causation and then complaining when they’re criticized…

Way to prove my point.

If you aren’t capable of defending your claims, why even reply? You made a sweeping general claim with no evidence: the responsible thing to do would be admitting it and not repeating the process.

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Post by csomar »

dazc wrote: post #93
mc32 wrote: post #51

At least among the Swedish population, but Id guess likely to similar in other places: >The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality. Very interesting, so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a cri…

'...so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a criminal' 'Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man' There is a lot of truth in this. When I think back to my childhood there were always a few kids who were just bad. They came from the same background, had the same advantages, and so on but there was still something evil about them. Typical behaviours included stuff like…

I’d not take a person entourage as concerte evidence. Evidentally, we need indeniable research here since it is about increminating people and putting them behind bars.

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Post by WhitneyLand »

bradknowles wrote: post #114
WhitneyLand wrote: post #66

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>we encode our own motivations and desires as the impetus I don’t see how that’s true. Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say, the system was encoded based on what the designers knew about motivation and desires at the time? The fact that what they knew was based on their own motivations seems incidental. I doubt if they had the perfect formula evidenced and understandable to them at the time, that they would have inten…

Okay, so they didn’t understand. Does that preclude us from trying to fix the problem?

On the contrary, it should add to our motivation. It’s just usually most productive to target outrage as accurately as possible. Not just because it’s fair, but because outrage is a scarce resource. To fight institutional injustice requires wasting as little energy as possible on the wrong targets.

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Post by Helmet »

dang wrote: post #216
Helmet wrote: post #18

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Do we? How do you draw that conclusion from the data? Personality disorders seem to be fairly resistant to treatment/therapy, and certainly more than 1% of the population has issues with mental health, yet they don’t seem to commit crimes at such an alarming rate. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I don’t think your conclusion is directly supported by this study.

You've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's an abuse of this site, regardless of which ideology you're promulgating, because it destroys the intellectual curiosity which the site is for. Since (a) the site guidelines explicitly ask you not do this; (b) you've ignored our recent request to stop doing this, and (c) you've been using multiple accounts to do it in this thread, we've banned this account.…

Fair enough - I think that you make a good point. I think the overall political climate is fueling this, but you're right, it does degrade the value of this site.
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