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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first smartphone, an iPhone, slowed to a crawl after some OS update about 2 years in. It's the last piece of Apple hardware I ever bought. The 3 non-Apple smartphones I've bought since then were all perfectly usable after 2 years.

My Samsung started dying unexpectedly at about 10% battery left. I bought another battery, popped the back cover and replaced it. For $10 it's as good as new.

It's unfortunate Samsung removed that option.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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I absolutely abhor the new Calculator app on the iOS 11. The old interface was way more elegant, the buttons were squares (and had a larger touch area), and it worked even when you typed fast. Sometimes I wonder why individuals working for these multibillion dollar companies, who affect the lives of millions of people, decide to change things for the worse. Imagine having spent all those hours overhauling the calcula…

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

Unfortunately, this is a sad but regular scenario now. It doesn't matter whether Apple does it on purpose or simply doesn't care, but new versions of iOS degrade the performance of older devices (an in this case "older" doesn't necessarily mean "very old"). Some people simply choose not to upgrade, but this may have security implications - and in any case sooner or later you'll come across an app you need that doesn'…

Is there any definitive evidence for this? Has anyone benchmarked devices before and after upgrades to prove it?

Edit: I don't mean CPU benchmarking which has been discussed elsewhere in this thread. More like usability testing, sequences of actions not invoking new OS features where possible, and also a second set of tests using new OS features because that's what most people's experience would be.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

Give up privacy? I thought it was with Android that I could root and remove all proprietary services (using e.g. F-Droid, LineageOS). Plus, you can set the window/transition animation scale to anything you want. The only thing iOS had for me was reliability and that seems to have gone out the window recently.

   The only thing iOS had for me was reliability
Android and Android apps are more reliable than iOS and iOS apps [1]. Depending on who you believe this has been the case for a long time [2][3] or is a recent trend [4]. As Android vs iOS is the mobile equivalent of vi vs emacs it is not easy to find objective reporting on the subject.

[1] https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=android+ios+crash...

[2] http://www.technologizer.com/2012/02/06/which-phone-os-crash...

[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-...

[4] http://fortune.com/2016/08/25/apple-ios-failure-rate/

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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There was — and I think it's still present — a similar bug in OS X's WM. ^→ and ^← switch spaces; the active (keyboard focused) window is not switched until the end of the animation, and subsequent keyboard input isn't withheld in the meantime. Meaning that if you type:

  123 ^→ abc
Which window gets "abc" is entirely dependent on how fast you type it. (If you wait long enough, the top window in the destination workspace gets it. If you don't, the top window in the source workspace.)

This gets doubly fun when both windows are terminals with ssh to production machines open…

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opening iMessage on a 6s Plus running iOS 11.0.3: Two seconds

This kind of thread generally piles up on rants of frustrated users, so here's another data (counter-)point: both are <1s for sure, possibly even less than 0.5s on my 6S w/ iOS 11, from a cold start. Everything is snappy and responsive, enough that I'd have to film this on slow mo and time it to be sure of any delay metric. Overall iOS 11 has been a solid performer for me ever since the second public beta.

I wasn't complaining at all. I love iOS 11. Just wanted to give some input.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

Steve left Forstall in place to fill that role. Guess he made the wrong people cry. Maybe he’ll make a grand return someday.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

That link is an incomplete version of the the original story here:

https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...

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