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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by visarga »

Steuard wrote: post #213
obviouslygreen wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Men as a sex have had advantageous circumstances and treatment for a long time, yes. That has absolutely nothing to do with men who are alive today . Perhaps you're a male who's OK with being the subject of discriminatory treatment over centuries of gain you didn't get to live through. I'm not, and I don't think anyone should be. Unless two wrongs make a right, discriminating against people who have not been a party…

" Men as a sex have had advantageous circumstances and treatment for a long time, yes. That has absolutely nothing to do with men who are alive today. " Let's talk about the gender ratio today in Congress, or among Fortune 500 CEOs. Let's talk about the recent study showing that given identical (fake) resumes for a lab manager position, scientists on average offer lower salary and less mentoring to female candidates.…

> Let's talk about the gender ratio today in Congress, or among Fortune 500 CEOs.

The few male at the top are supported by an army of women in leading positions, such as project manager and director. Under these women are many, many more men with lesser roles.

Women have it good in the middle to upper regions of corporate and politics. In those roles they are very appreciated and have lots of real power (and get to boss around other men).

It should be interesting to know how many have women as direct superiors vs viceversa.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by Dewie »

3825 wrote: post #143
esquilax wrote: post #81

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You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market. *badoom, pish!

I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone. The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of…

IMO prisons should be about taking away peoples freedom, not about treating them like animals. But many people seem to be more concerned about their utility or lack thereof, for example if having a death sentence for death convicts costs more than life in prison or vice versa. Or the idea of having them work as effectively slave labour.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by tomjen3 »

dfxm12 wrote: post #200
jeffreybaird wrote: post #8

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The issue is men don't use the app. I downloaded it on my SO's phone and was able to find most of the college age guys I know on it. None of them knew they were on there.

The issue is men don't use the app. I think the issue is men can't use the app.

Really. How the hell do they check that the user is a man? Facial recognition?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by fc2 »

jeffcutsinger wrote: post #59

I can't wait to see this buried beneath older stories with fewer points and comments, the way every story on sexism gets buried here. Oh wait this is about how awful women are to men. Never mind.

Why would any sexism story not get buried? This is Hacker News, not Tumblr or SRS.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by BSousa »

ritchiea wrote: post #39
shanelja wrote: post #34

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We must have grown up in drastically different times then - I'm barely 20 and for the majority of my life I have been taught that boys are smelly and girls are sweet, boys do the dirty jobs and that men are dangerous and shouldn't be left alone with women. Sure, men have had the upper hand for centuries but we live in an age where the scales have tipped - we need to be careful that instead of having a substantial boo…

Barely 20 is pretty young, I suspect as you get older you will notice more and more ways men still have societal advantages. Around 20 most of your life you've spent in school, where if you're in a relatively progressive environment your teachers and administrators have made a point to put students of both genders on equal footing.

The problem (at least here) is that they don't. Boys are usually given harsher sentences for same misbehavior as girls. Also, there is more boys dropping out than girls. Girls tend to grade higher than boys as well.

Unemployment of young folk (I don't want to take anything from the women's struggle, but more and more, they are getting the upper hand. (Heck, my boy is 11 months old, and even now, he gets more 'insults' about behavior then his female cousin about same age)

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by dfxm12 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #233
dfxm12 wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is men don't use the app. I think the issue is men can't use the app.

Really. How the hell do they check that the user is a man? Facial recognition?

No idea. You have to install the app on your phone, so it can read your phone's accounts. I think a Google account is required on an Android phone. Google accounts have gender in their profile (remember the G+ fiasco?). You also have to link it to Facebook, so it has access to your Facebook data as well. Maybe they don't like new Facebook accounts with zero activity, but certainly there is a usecase for women who want to use this app, but don't want to use Facebook (I would think there is a usecase for women who don't have smartphones as well). Not sure about the iPhone flow.

This thought exercise is really making me scared about how much the owners of the apps on my phone know about me!

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by marvin »

I am so happy that I'm steering well clear of mainstream dating these days. This is the worst of mainstream dating culture, distilled and ready to use. If nothing else, you could make awareness/usage of this app a dealbreaker and use it as a filter for girls you would definitely not want as a partner.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by tomjen3 »

Steuard wrote: post #100

I have two reactions to this, and I think most people who care about sexism in our society would agree with both: 1. From the sound of it, this is a horribly sexist product that dehumanizes men and reinforces traditional gender roles. I hope to one day see a world where an app like this couldn't exist because there would be no demand (and because everyone would be disgusted by the basic concept). 2. Actively opposing…

Yeah, lets blame the males, those horrible, horrible people who oppress women by being in prison, homeless or committing suicide (or, in the past, dying on the battlefields on Europe by the millions).

Try to read a little more about how genders really work before you claim that men are the only oppressors: the top of society is mostly men, but so is the bottom.

The survival rate of third-class female passengers on the Titanic were higher than the survival rate of first-class male passengers: does that sound like oppression for you?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by networked »

If you're a single straight guy who has any kind of web following and you fear Lulu will be detrimental to your dating you can probably apply the following counter-strategy: ask your followers to register fake Lulu accounts and give you bizarre, negative reviews. Once the number and the severity and absurdity of the reviews cross a certain threshold it will be clear that those are not all to be taken seriously. This will drown out any real negative reviews of you with noise and, should many people start doing it, bring the overall credibility of the site down.

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating that you do so.

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