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Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by [deleted] »

georgeorwell wrote: post #228
jasonlotito wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude, relax. Have a discussion. =) > If I play in a busy street everyday, you'd blame me when I eventually got hit by a car even though cars are always supposed to be driven under control. Context. You are supposed to comment on HN. You are not supposed to play in the street. If you played in a park, I'd expect you not to get hit by a car. If someone does get hit by a car while playing in a park, you don't suggest to…

For what it's worth, I didn't tell her to shut up. (I'm assuming it's a woman.) I just said I don't think it's such a good idea to write such inflammatory messages if you're concerned about the death threats you're receiving. This includes things like using curse words (e.g. HN is a shithole), and insulting people in other ways. And I'm sorry, but if you know that a park is dangerous because a bunch of drunken teenag…

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Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by georgeorwell »

jasonlotito wrote: post #230
georgeorwell wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, I didn't tell her to shut up. (I'm assuming it's a woman.) I just said I don't think it's such a good idea to write such inflammatory messages if you're concerned about the death threats you're receiving. This includes things like using curse words (e.g. HN is a shithole), and insulting people in other ways. And I'm sorry, but if you know that a park is dangerous because a bunch of drunken teenag…

> For what it's worth, I didn't tell her to shut up. I realize you did. And I'm not suggesting you are a bad person or anything. =) > And I'm sorry, but if you know that a park is dangerous because a bunch of drunken teenagers I'm sorry, but hyperbole can be too ridiculous. Tossing in additional conditions to suit your point is silly, and is really not worth my time.

Okay. You came up with the park analogy, saying that if someone got hit by a car in it, that you wouldn't not play in it on that basis. This is a fallacy because that was not the original position. The fallacy is called a straw man, because you put up the "straw man" that is supposedly my argument and then knocked it down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

All I did was attempt to make your analogy match reality more closely, to make it less of a straw man. It is a less flawed analogy now. The reality we are discussing is the situation of the person receiving death threats, not any of this other analogous stuff.

But, you know, if you just generally want to have discussions about what to do in different situations where one might or might not need to exercise caution, that can be okay. Of course if someone got hit by accident in a park I wouldn't say that other kids shouldn't play in it.

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by mlent »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #170
rplnt wrote: post #133

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Why? (not why as "I don't see anything wrong" but why as "I really don't know, please explain")

Fork = Fuck Repo = Vagina A woman walking around with a metaphoric "fuck my vagina" shirt is asking to be hit on and told dirty jokes. It would be like a straight man going into a gay bar with a shirt that says "My backdoor is open".

I think my point was moreso that wearing that shirt isn't asking for that at all, but will be treated that way.

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Post by aneth4 »

stcredzero wrote: post #90
aneth4 wrote: post #75

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Humor is the last refuge of those who refuse to be tied down by other people's issues.

Sorry, but there's no substitute for being wise, being open, and listening generously. History's villains had humor and laughter too. Laughter is not a magical ultimate good. It's just laughter, it's orthogonal to morality, and it doesn't excuse you from using your best judgement and "being a good guy."

Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them.

Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by aneth4 »

stcredzero wrote: post #90
aneth4 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humor is the last refuge of those who refuse to be tied down by other people's issues.

Sorry, but there's no substitute for being wise, being open, and listening generously. History's villains had humor and laughter too. Laughter is not a magical ultimate good. It's just laughter, it's orthogonal to morality, and it doesn't excuse you from using your best judgement and "being a good guy."

Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them.

Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by aneth4 »

stcredzero wrote: post #90
aneth4 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humor is the last refuge of those who refuse to be tied down by other people's issues.

Sorry, but there's no substitute for being wise, being open, and listening generously. History's villains had humor and laughter too. Laughter is not a magical ultimate good. It's just laughter, it's orthogonal to morality, and it doesn't excuse you from using your best judgement and "being a good guy."

Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them.

Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by aneth4 »

stcredzero wrote: post #90
aneth4 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humor is the last refuge of those who refuse to be tied down by other people's issues.

Sorry, but there's no substitute for being wise, being open, and listening generously. History's villains had humor and laughter too. Laughter is not a magical ultimate good. It's just laughter, it's orthogonal to morality, and it doesn't excuse you from using your best judgement and "being a good guy."

Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them.

Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by sneak »

unalone wrote: post #168
davidw wrote: post #157

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> If anything, we've learned that there is really no effective way to establish, objectively, what is an isn't offensive. "The only winning move is not to play"

Except that in this case, the "player" is the one who's using certain words in a pejorative context, giving the implication that anybody to whom that word applies is somehow lesser because of it. This is why we don't use the words "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" as insults anymore, why calling somebody a "pussy" or "woman" for not being aggressive or assertive enough is generally frowned upon, and, yes, why casually d…

This is the internet. We use "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" all the time. Because WORDS.

If you think the correct answer is to try to get everyone everywhere to not use whatever subset of words you subjectively find offensive versus just IGNORING THINGS THAT OFFEND YOU, I'm not really sure what to tell you, other than perhaps:

Good luck with that, you retarded faggot.[1]

[1] http://youtu.be/Fcja4WFFzDw

Re: Fork My Dongle

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Post by stcredzero »

aneth4 wrote: post #234
stcredzero wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but there's no substitute for being wise, being open, and listening generously. History's villains had humor and laughter too. Laughter is not a magical ultimate good. It's just laughter, it's orthogonal to morality, and it doesn't excuse you from using your best judgement and "being a good guy."

Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them. Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

> Villains are often wise, open, and listen generously. Actually mafia types are often some of the nicest people, as long as you don't cross them.

Manners, charm, and good listening are all things that are orthogonal to that whole good and evil thing. They are powerful tools, and often make ones life easier. They can even be a tremendous force for good. These are all orthogonal to good/evil, though.

Musical talent is another thing people get mixed up about. Someone can be a musically talented jerkwad. The same goes for beauty, obviously. The same even goes for programming talent.

> Regardless, humor is an important technique for bringing perspective to situations, and helps us come back to realizing life is about being happy, not settling scores.

It can also be used as a bitter condiment while settling scores. Once again my point: Humor is orthogonal!

Re: Fork My Dongle

#240

Post by philwelch »

stcredzero wrote: post #219
philwelch wrote: post #196

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I think you're attributing opinions to me that I never expressed. I'm just saying that poking fun is a perfectly appropriate response to this particular absurd situation.

> I think you're attributing opinions to me that I never expressed. It was because of the "always." Seems like you meant that more as "most of the time." > I'm just saying that poking fun is a perfectly appropriate response to this particular absurd situation. With that, I'll entirely agree.

Getting under the skin of prigs is always funny. I think that's a fair statement. It might not always be socially justifiable or always be the best response, but it's always funny.
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