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REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by analog31 »

bakies wrote: post #224
Eueudhsbsj32 wrote: post #219

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Sure, I could buy a dedicated more efficient car for the rare days when there is zero risk of rain and I don't need to haul anything larger. After more than 1cm of rain, the last 500m of the steep dirt road up to my off-grid house in the mountains is completely impassable without 4wd. And I, or my family-in-law, regularly haul large trees, construction equipment, several 100kg of fertilizer, etc. in the truck bed. Bu…

Not doubting there's a place for them. I'm in suburbia and all my friends have or want them for grocery getting. It's stupid.

Suburban Americans are temporarily embarrassed farmers and outdoorsmen.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by analog31 »

copperx wrote: post #185
analog31 wrote: post #20

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The interesting thing in the US is that a lot of pickups, possibly most of them, are purchased for regular daily driving. None of the people I know with pickups have trailers.

What do you mean daily driving? Like commutes? That wouldn't make any sense.

Yes exactly this. The parking lot of a typical American urban workplace will be filled with a disproportionate number of pickup trucks.

Our culture ties our cars to our identities.

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Post by ssl-3 »

otterley wrote: post #196
ssl-3 wrote: post #151

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A Honda minivan can fit 4x8 sheets of plywood in the dry, under-roof, with the doors closed. Other times, it can seat 8.

Unfortunately, to Americans, that really doesn't matter. Even if they're not as fit for purpose, they prefer pickup trucks to minivans. It's a cultural thing. (I realize you're probably being responsive to the word "need" - it's more what they claim they need than actually need. They could use a Japanese kei truck.)

Am American. Need work vehicle that can move some stuff that might be fairly big. Minivan is solution. It does the job very well.

If I needed to move more stuff, then the best answer still isn't a pickup truck. It is instead a full-size van (Transit/Express/Sprinter/ProMaster).

Kei trucks seem cool, but they're still trucks. Whatever's in the back is open to the elements, looky-loos, and thieves. Those concerns are greatly diminished with vans.

(A pickup truck with a cap on it that never comes off is a lot like a minivan is, but with more steps.)

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by testing22321 »

smalltorch wrote: post #226
testing22321 wrote: post #216

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> And while for trucks the electric vs gas is huge, my Chevy Volt costs per mile about the same to operate on gas vs electric, because electricity is $0.46 a kwh in my California region For you. Here in Canada gas is 4.90 USD /gal. (Diesel is 5.45) Electricity is 0.093 USD / kWh. And it’s all from hydro. Literally every tradesman in town has an F150 lightning because for fuel alone it’s about 1/4 the cost of any gas…

>Literally every tradesman in town has an F150 lightning because for fuel alone it’s about 1/4 the cost of any gas or diesel pickup. I thought ford killed the lightning because it didn't sell?

They killed it because they didn’t know how to build it without losing money on every sale.

It sold like hot cakes.

Their new smaller EV pickup is designed and built by a bunch of ex-Tesla folks to try and build it inexpensively so they can turn a profit. It’s the model Y of 5 years ago.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by m463 »

Jordan-117 wrote: post #198

I'm not up on the Maverick, but the comparison chart for the Slate EV feels pretty misleading: - the Slate's range is now 205 miles across the board, not 150/240 - both the REO and Slate start as 2-door 2-seaters with pricier models adding capacity, but the chart boasts the REO seats "up to 6" while the Slate seats "2 (5 costs extra)" - for repair costs, the REO just says "mechanical - affordable" (?) while labeling…

> feels pretty misleading:

this is called "marketing". :)

Having owned both gas and electric cars, I think the reality is probably not what either side thinks.

You have to take electric cars into the shop too. But range problems aren't as much of a problem for adults if you plug in every night and don't forget. If you're the type that forgets to charge your phone, it might be. and if there's no charging in your domicile it might be an issue.

But gas cars are also bad for the people who forget to charge their phone. Or change their oil. or any type of routine maintenance that could turn a trouble-free gas car into an extra trouble gas car.

I think electric cars (and their batteries) last lots longer than people expected. And gas cars are trouble-free up until a certain age when things not only need to be maintained, but replaced and then you need a good relationship with a mechanic.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by bakies »

fultonn wrote: post #186
wlesieutre wrote: post #137

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Still see this in the ones with tonneau covers as if they intended to put cargo in the bed But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there

> But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there This is why I'm excited for REO. I live in a pretty dense city and don't have much storage space in my residence. On the weekends I'm clearing and developing a lot a couple of hours away. My vehicle doubles as storage for all the stuff I need for that and don't want to leave unattended (saws, tools, winch, etc). I used a Forester for the first two years, wh…

Get a work van. It's a big capped pickup bed basically. But a reasonable size

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by zamadatix »

m463 wrote: post #235
Jordan-117 wrote: post #198

I'm not up on the Maverick, but the comparison chart for the Slate EV feels pretty misleading: - the Slate's range is now 205 miles across the board, not 150/240 - both the REO and Slate start as 2-door 2-seaters with pricier models adding capacity, but the chart boasts the REO seats "up to 6" while the Slate seats "2 (5 costs extra)" - for repair costs, the REO just says "mechanical - affordable" (?) while labeling…

> feels pretty misleading: this is called "marketing". :) Having owned both gas and electric cars, I think the reality is probably not what either side thinks. You have to take electric cars into the shop too. But range problems aren't as much of a problem for adults if you plug in every night and don't forget. If you're the type that forgets to charge your phone, it might be. and if there's no charging in your domic…

I think the range conversation has more to do with what you use your vehicle for than what your memory is. I.e. the oddball situations, not the regular trip to the grocery store starting and ending in the garage you plug in at.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by wlesieutre »

stasomatic wrote: post #173
wlesieutre wrote: post #137

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Still see this in the ones with tonneau covers as if they intended to put cargo in the bed But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there

A friend with a RAM 1500 truck (a brute of a machine) bought a Harley in a neighboring state, I kept him company during the 8h ordeal. He rented a trailer because the bike was too heavy to hoist on the bed. Hillarious. It's just a style thing, folks, however silly. Why do Texans wear cowboy hats and boots?

What’s the “all hat no cattle” for pickups?

All truck no load?

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by antonvs »

SoftTalker wrote: post #210
antonvs wrote: post #156

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> But the cost of them limits most people's ability to endulge that. Sounds like you’ve never been to the US. Thanks to cheap credit, every hillbilly and redneck has one of these. Which feels like about 60% of the population sometimes.

I have lived in the US my entire life. And yes pickup trucks are part of the "country" or "rural" identity to some extent but most people who live in rural areas actually use their trucks as trucks frequently. They pull trailers, or use them to haul furniture, appliances, building materials, trash... all the stuff that has delivery services in the city but you have to do for yourself if you live in the country.

Earlier, you wrote:

> It's honestly not that many.

I can't identify with this. You see these trucks everywhere. There are far more of them than there's any reason for - other than the whole weird only-in-America "light truck" regulations that relax emissions requirements for these trucks. Basically, a big reason we see so many of them is that the US simply refuses to take global warming seriously, instead basically saying "we're going to stick it to the planet as hard as we can, damn the consequences."

And when I said hillbillies and rednecks, I'm not talking about the actual people using their trucks for what they're supposed to be used for. I'm talking about the pavement princesses which wouldn't actually haul anything in their trucks because it would scratch the beds. They have the hillbilly redneck mindset without doing the work that justifies it. The truck is an emotional support vehicle for them, or a gender affirming vehicle. And there's no world in which you can honestly say "there aren't that many" of those in the US.

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