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REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by mjh2539 »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #172
prmoustache wrote: post #171

I am pretty sure that if you need an inexpensive car with a decent charging bed, you are better of buying a regular passenger car and tow a small trailer when you need it. My dad bought one years ago and tow it with his corolla minivan whenever he needs it. Chance is that if you only need the bed a couple of times a year or are space constrained you are better of renting it. I never understood those US mountainbikers…

> I am pretty sure that if you need an inexpensive car with a decent charging bed, you are better of buying a regular passenger car and tow a small trailer when you need it. Or a minivan. Or an actual van. Truck's sole advantage is open bed. That is needed even rarer than "enough space for some plywood at the back"

You can easily fit 8 full sheets of plywood (4ftx8ft) in a 2020 Honda Odyssey, with the seats still in the car. And you don't have to worry about them getting wet on the drive back home.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by prmoustache »

nicbou wrote: post #174
prmoustache wrote: post #171

I am pretty sure that if you need an inexpensive car with a decent charging bed, you are better of buying a regular passenger car and tow a small trailer when you need it. My dad bought one years ago and tow it with his corolla minivan whenever he needs it. Chance is that if you only need the bed a couple of times a year or are space constrained you are better of renting it. I never understood those US mountainbikers…

I maintain that a Renault Kangoo is the best car format ever.

Yes. We still see an insane amount of Citroen C15 here in south of Spain.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by fultonn »

stasomatic wrote: post #173
wlesieutre wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still see this in the ones with tonneau covers as if they intended to put cargo in the bed But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there

A friend with a RAM 1500 truck (a brute of a machine) bought a Harley in a neighboring state, I kept him company during the 8h ordeal. He rented a trailer because the bike was too heavy to hoist on the bed. Hillarious. It's just a style thing, folks, however silly. Why do Texans wear cowboy hats and boots?

> hoist

FWIW, transporting (even large) bikes in the bed of a truck is doable and normal. The typical way to do this isn't with a hoist. You just ride or walk it up a ramp and tie it down.

ofc a Forester or RAV4 with a trailer is a far superior solution, especially for interstate driving where the trailer is less of an annoyance.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by copperx »

analog31 wrote: post #20
herbst wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many great EV cars. But when you have a trailer or caravan we still talk about a heavily reduced range (and often they aren't allowed to pull at all, or weight limits get a problem, at least in Europe)

The interesting thing in the US is that a lot of pickups, possibly most of them, are purchased for regular daily driving. None of the people I know with pickups have trailers.

What do you mean daily driving? Like commutes? That wouldn't make any sense.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by fultonn »

wlesieutre wrote: post #137
Eueudhsbsj32 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the more important reasons are to prevent the groceries from sliding around in the bed and to protect them from the sun and precipitation.

Still see this in the ones with tonneau covers as if they intended to put cargo in the bed But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there

> But who knows maybe it’s already full of stuff under there

This is why I'm excited for REO.

I live in a pretty dense city and don't have much storage space in my residence. On the weekends I'm clearing and developing a lot a couple of hours away. My vehicle doubles as storage for all the stuff I need for that and don't want to leave unattended (saws, tools, winch, etc).

I used a Forester for the first two years, which was cramped but doable. The bigger issue was messes. Oil has a way of getting everywhere. I also had one gas spill from a faulty saw gas cap which was both dangerous and a huge PITA to clean up. I also got to a phase where the difference between awd and 4x4 matters, and where I was yanking milled planks around which didn't feel safe doing with the forester.

I switched to a truck after a couple of years and went small. The box is completely full between tools, saws, gas, winch, ropes, etc. When I do groceries I can usually fit some of the "hard" bags back there (cans, bottles) but the rest has to go up front.

A REO would be great for my use-case. The price is low enough that for the price of a new Tacoma or F-150 I could (get close enough to) buying both a REO and a used beater 3/4 ton at the property, which is a better fit for the things I need a big truck for anyways. And I wouldn't be driving a dumb big truck around a very cramped city.

For now I'm stuck with a big truck in the city because owning more than one personal vehicle in this town is insanity.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by fultonn »

analog31 wrote: post #20
herbst wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many great EV cars. But when you have a trailer or caravan we still talk about a heavily reduced range (and often they aren't allowed to pull at all, or weight limits get a problem, at least in Europe)

The interesting thing in the US is that a lot of pickups, possibly most of them, are purchased for regular daily driving. None of the people I know with pickups have trailers.

American trucks are built for towing -- it's one of the reasons they are so big and heavy and expensive -- so I get where the "trucks are for towing" wisdom comes from.

But it's still funny to me. Because in my mind one of the main perks of an open bed is that you can do so much before having to deal with a trailer (which are super annoying, especially in cities, especially without off-street parking).

Which I guess is just to say: maybe there's a market for a truck that can't tow much, because maybe there's a portion of the market that wants an open bed but doesn't need to tow a massive camper or whatever.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by waynecochran »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #159

Slate is an EV that's so much better than a world-polluting ICE. ICE vehicles will hopefully be banned for sale everywhere by 2030 because they're more expensive and toxic to run than EVs.

You do realize EV’s pollute as well? Batteries are nasty.

Re: REO Trucks I4 4WD Pickup Truck Starts at $21,500

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Post by bartlebone »

REO missed one important point: monster trucks are about vice signaling and political identity. Most people that own monster trucks know they don’t need them for truck-like things, they need them to identify with their chosen group. There are also a lot of people who own them who think they will need them (like monster SUVs) and overbuy because literally bigger is better in their minds. REO is right in that there is no bottom market and I’m sure folks want a normal pickup, but I don’t think the market for small pickups is big enough when identity and politics (and existing policy) drive decision making at scale.
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