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My dog thinks it's because we're running low on milkbones, but my cats aren't convinced.
ah. techcrunch must have alluded to you not having milkbones
https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/16/apple-plans-to-change-its-...
Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nowhere other than on HN have I seen so many people who are actively proud of their anti-consumer (and frankly anti-human) behaviour. It's a rather revealing look into the veil behind big tech. A lot of people have this misconception that it's evil $bigcorp forcing employees to do what earns a paycheck, but no, there's no shortage of normal people like yourself bragging about anything they can do to identify and trac…
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They aren't giving useful information, they are posting an opinion insinuating that people who use """""fake""""" (ie. non-personally-identifying) e-mail addresses are fraudsters.
> If you insist on giving me a fake email, your business is probably a liability I don't want anyway.
They did not provide any meaningful insight into the field, they are simply insisting that e-mail addresses should be a tool for personal identification because it saves them money over doing real KYC. In other words, they believe KYC should be slanted further in favor of corporations and against customers, such that KYC is publicly available for free, because they value not doing the work of verification over humans having any privacy whatsoever.
As they are entitled to post their opinion on humans having no privacy rights, I am entitled to post mine and point out the hypocrisy of them choosing to participate in this forum privately while advocating for and boasting about denying service to other people who attempt to protect their privacy.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#233I highly recommend either SimpleLogin or Fastmail aliases. The latter are superior because they can be used to reply directly to any received email without needing to set up reverse aliases.
When you own your own domain, the switching cost between providers is small. You can make a dedicated domain just for aliases
Both SimpleLogin and Fastmail have excellent integration with password managers as well
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#234Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.
The problem is if someone figures it out and starts sending you spam to {random}@domain.tld. That's when you will need to sit down and start creating actual aliases for all those used email addresses and stop the catch-all forwarding:) Also, another downside is that you will loose privacy by using your own domain. And the lack of privacy makes targeted scam/phishing more likely, and targeted scam is the one we are mo…
The mechanism I use is ordered. All specific aliases are tried first and then it falls through to the catch-all forwarding rule.
So, it's a piece of cake to add "{random}@example.com" to the block list. Usually it's something like "msg-bestbuy@example.com".
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Services like DeepSeek have an email domain whitelist rather than blacklist. So creating your own domain just guarantees a lockout
That's nonsense. I have a DeepSeek account, of the form ai+deepseek@mydomain.com.
DeepSeek didn't always have a whitelist. At some point they went crazy due to spam, started requiring Chinese phone numbers only, and then loosened it to an email domain whitelist. (IIRC)
If you try to sign up with a domain they don't support, they tell you something like "please use a popular email provider like gmail"
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious what you think the difference is between "a paying iCloud user" and "an anonymous rando off the internet." How many Apple gift cards do you reckon get sent to fraudsters every day? Decades worth of iCloud+ surely. I'm running a business where I need to know who you are, because my platform can be used defraud other people. If you're trying to hide who you are from our very first interaction, that's a mass…
> If you're trying to hide who you are from our very first interaction, that's a massive red flag. You conflate email with identity, just like the media companies conflated IP addresses. It's not hiding who you are, it's hiding my real email address behind a mask that you can't choose to sell off to marketers, or spam yourself, or otherwise profit off, regardless of the nature of our relationship - I've got plenty of…
> I guarantee it doesn't remotely slow anyone down
I have watched the rate go down and stay down on real live dashboards.
> Maybe if you're talking one entity and tens or hundreds of thousands of accounts
We are.
I'm not so rude as to call you "laughably naive" but I am speaking from experience and you appear to be considering a hypothetical.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#237I wonder if the existing hidden emails I already have in iCloud will be changed over too. If that's not the case, I'm just going to use one of the 50 throwaway addresses I already have.
The announcement the article linked said Existing addresses on the legacy domains will continue to work and forward mail to users without interruption.
Guess I missed that part, my mistake
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I can filter/throttle fraudsters at the create account step for free, I save on the fees my KYC/IDV providers charge each time they attempt to defeat it.
At the cost of blocking legitimate users who don’t want to be spammed, don’t want to be correlated after a data breach, etc. I have been willing to do KYC for services (usually financial) without giving out my main email. Services that put up too many barriers to this don’t get my business. I concede that there aren’t that many users like me, compared to the general public, but I’m a legitimate user.
There must be at least two of us!
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my city in Northern California our downtown uses an app for parking now. I don’t use it so it’s still an option, but you have to goto a kiosk, enter your license plate number, and pay with card. It’s made the downtown more of a ghost town (admittedly it was already dying) and the boomers with cash just don’t go. The younger 20somethings all complain “boomers are too stupid to use an app” and have no concern for pr…
> The younger 20somethings all complain “boomers are too stupid to use an app” and have no concern for privacy apparently. They were literally trained not to value their privacy. The first generation of ipad kids now have driver's licenses.
I hear some take pride in being “digital native” and only knowing a world where smartphones are a ubiquitous part of your life.
I’m quite content having grown up without being always online. The childhood I had where what I did between school time and when my parents expected me home for dinner were mine alone. Every event was not recorded by 50+ cameras with bad seats and posted online for nobody to watch.
A truly excellent time to be alive that I doubt we will see again
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you not pay with cash or card anywhere? What if you don't have a "smart" phone? I would categorically refuse to park anywhere that requires running a proprietary app on my device. Fortunately, in the States at least, I have not encountered such a place yet.
Essentially too bad. Look at the parkmobile disaster.
The what?