The unevenly sized arrow keys still prevent me from buying any of it.
Hear, hear!
Framework Laptop 13 Pro
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#232Man, I want to get a Framework, but I'm held back by the lack of trackpoint. Yes, I know it's not going to happen officially, but I just can't see myself using a laptop without one. So, until someone figures out some mod or 3rd-party part I'm sticking with Thinkpads.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
The iGP can access shared memory the same as with any modern system. I'm confused where you got this idea from.
There is a huge difference between on-die and off-die memory. Where that shared memory is located matters immensely.
Nonsense, Apple has on package memory and the primary reason for that is overall packaging and layout not performance
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#234These are cool laptops. But, after getting a decent config (32gb ram, 1tb ssd, 7 series chip), the price is ~$2300. At that point, a MacBook Pro seems like a better choice. I'd not want to develop on anything less than that config. The selling point seems to be the Linux + Framework brand + highly customizable machine you can actually own I've always wondered if these laptops can scale beyond the enthusiast group. If…
But you can upgrade it later by swapping parts and not buying a new machine, so it should be cheaper in the long run.
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#235No dedicated Home/End/PgUp/PgDn/Ins/Del? Meh. No T-shape cursor keys?!? Lame. No love. No want. Go home. Thinkpad FTW. Sorry.
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#236"pro" in the name, without ECC ram is a travesty
Does the LPCAMM2 standard allow for a full-blown ECC interface, as opposed being limited to the on-die ECC that's part of the DDR5 spec?
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
> hamstring this thing with Intel. Have you missed all the recent Intel news or something?
What are the news recently?
Well, Intel was kind of in the dumps because their process fell behind. They didn't bet on EUV and got leapfrogged by TSMC and Samsung who did use ASML's EUV technology.
They eventually got on the EUV train and were the first customer to receive ASML's current state of the art machine which they call high-NA EUV. Intel's 18A process is the first to use this machine as part of the manufacturing process, Panther Lake uses this process so now they're right back to being SOTA.
All the news about them (stock price movements, theories about them going bankrupt, Panther Lake, etc...) for the last 2 years has essentially been people betting on whether or not they can successfully incorporate SOTA ASML machines into their manufacturing.
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#238> up to 64GB of LPCAMM2 LPDDR5X That's a non-starter. Why not 128GB or push boundary for 256GB?
Maybe because 64 GB is $849.
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#239I continue to admire Framework from afar. If I were to switch from MacOS to Linux, they'd be at the top of my list when shopping.
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#240These are cool laptops. But, after getting a decent config (32gb ram, 1tb ssd, 7 series chip), the price is ~$2300. At that point, a MacBook Pro seems like a better choice. I'd not want to develop on anything less than that config. The selling point seems to be the Linux + Framework brand + highly customizable machine you can actually own I've always wondered if these laptops can scale beyond the enthusiast group. If…
14" macbook pro with those specs is ~2100. 200 dollar delta for repair-ability seems acceptable to me.