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I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#232Quick question -- were you clever / ruthless enough to actually run real ads on this?
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#233I think open weights models are what prevents this from already happening.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
"You pay and it's yours." Which is exactly why, having paid for an ad-free service, people are miffed when ads appear anyway. I'm not going to take on the responsibility of educating you as to the examples that exist, because that's your own responsibility. Not only because we have to educate ourselves, but because you made the unsupported claim in the first place that the phenomenon doesn't exist. Proving a negative…
No one will ever be able to help the people who have an aneurysm when a Toyota logo is visible on the steering wheel of the protagonists car.
What is your point here? Yes, if I were to pay for a movie or show, I would find it unacceptable if it were to contain paid product placement. Do you think prominent logos in media are an accident?
And youtube could easily ban third party sponsors in their ToS, have all advertising on their platform go through them, and completely remove it for paying customers. Just like Netflix can refuse to host any shows with product placement. It's entirely their own product decision to allow ads in their "ad free" offering.
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#235Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#236I understand the message this tries to tell but this is not how it will look. This is how dying cash cows look. This isn’t even dangerous, it’s just ugly and wouldn’t be used by many people. The real thing will look like ChatGPT. It will even answer WAY faster, because every microsecond means real money. The answers will sound real. They will even be useful. But maximally engaging. Each answer will end with a clickba…
Or users will realize that a trashy ads experience is bad and switch to a service that isn't trashy. I don't understand why there's so much fearmongering about ads when heavy competition + zero switching costs will effectively guarantee good UX.
> Or users will realize that a trashy ads experience is bad and switch to a service that isn't trashy
AI service can be so sophisticated that most will not notice the manipulation.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#237I think you forgot to add a cookie banner. And I cannot find where to subscribe to newsletter. You still have some work to do ;)
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#238I understand the message this tries to tell but this is not how it will look. This is how dying cash cows look. This isn’t even dangerous, it’s just ugly and wouldn’t be used by many people. The real thing will look like ChatGPT. It will even answer WAY faster, because every microsecond means real money. The answers will sound real. They will even be useful. But maximally engaging. Each answer will end with a clickba…
Or users will realize that a trashy ads experience is bad and switch to a service that isn't trashy. I don't understand why there's so much fearmongering about ads when heavy competition + zero switching costs will effectively guarantee good UX.
Almost any online service has plenty of competition, but it doesn't prevent enshittification once one of them proves that you can squeeze more revenue out of users and get away with it. Netflix charges you the same as five years ago, but you now get ads. You pay for Amazon Prime and get ads. You pay for Spotify, but they now serve you AI music from fake bands to avoid paying royalties to humans. The end game is that all consumer LLMs have ads in the free / cheap tier.
And as other folks are saying, the whole point is that it's a different type of an ad: it's not an annoying pop-up or an unskippable video. It's a subtle recommendation that you don't even notice. High conversion rates, little fatigue... getter than all the cool characters smoking in films a while back.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious how often you find factual inaccuracies in the LLM responses when doing that. I've found that more often than not, it gets at least one key feature/option/etc. outright wrong whenever I've tried that, making it effectively useless for me. Since I need to verify the exact information myself anyways, I'm 90% the easy to just having the different items in comparing up in side-by-side browser tabs, anyways.
I usually use it for sub $10 things (mostly groceries) and I'm actively grocery shopping when I do it. So say I'm standing in the store trying to decide between 8 different yogurts all of which have different sales going on and different servings sizes, so instead of having to flip over and read all the 8 brands and do math to equalize everything myself I take a photo of the shelf and ask Gemini which one has the mos…
I guess the Bonne Maman chocolate hazelnut spread trade is over then. Cats outta the bag.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#240I understand the message this tries to tell but this is not how it will look. This is how dying cash cows look. This isn’t even dangerous, it’s just ugly and wouldn’t be used by many people. The real thing will look like ChatGPT. It will even answer WAY faster, because every microsecond means real money. The answers will sound real. They will even be useful. But maximally engaging. Each answer will end with a clickba…
This looks like a vibe-coded promo for the service the parent is associated with, but what cracks me up is that not all this UI clutter is a part of the joke. For example, there are some incessant "chat with AI" bubbles that pop up in the bottom right corner that belong to the platform itself.