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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by heavyset_go »

tt24 wrote: post #202
Sayrus wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet if you want applications to work on your phone, many times you'll need approval from either Apple or Google. Google can effectively ban manufacturers (like they did with Huawei) from using "Android" by blacklisting them from Play Services. Apple owns the entire ecosystem and prevents third-party from having access to the same feature set.

Something tells me that the thing about Google not allowing custom Andriod operating systems to install apps is not quite true. I don't know about this specific topic yet, but I bet that if I look into it, I'll find out that there's nuance here that isn't been correctly portrayed by your comment.

Look up Play Integrity, it's the remote attestation framework Google uses to ensure apps only run on Google-blessed hardware and software. Apps that use it verify that both hardware and software are unmodified and blessed by Google before apps are allowed to run. Banking apps use it, the fucking McDonald's app uses it, public transit pass apps use it, etc.

If you want to use your phone like normal people do in 2025, and not relegate yourself to being a second-class citizen when it comes to simple things like paying for stuff, riding the subway, etc, your phone is either an iPhone or something that plays nicely with Play Services.

And that's just the remote attestation side. Many apps rely on Play Services themselves, and without access to them, will not work. Google gates access to Play Services through contracts, it is not open source or part of Android.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by deaux »

kmeisthax wrote: post #223
tt24 wrote: post #184

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That's the thing, you don't have to be! You are welcome to use another phone more to your liking.

I do! I've been an Android stalwart since I first got a smartphone over a decade ago. Problem is, every year Android announces some new stupid-ass restriction or anti-feature that significantly degrades the capability of application software on the OS in the name of security. In other words, Google keeps trying to turn my Android into a shittier iPhone. It's gotten so bad that they recently floated the idea of mandat…

> Every time the EU passes a law intended to stop obviously monopolistic shit like this from happening, a certain brand of Ayn Randroid Apple fan comes out of the woodwork

These companies spend billions in dollars on PR agencies and lobbying. They spend the most on lobbying the EU out of everyone. The likelihood that zero of that goes towards writing such comments in places like HN is minuscule. And then there's the legions of actual Googlers and Applers here and elsewhere who have drunk the koolaid.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by rogerrogerr »

littlestymaar wrote: post #99
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #89

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His business is too tied to being in Apple's good graces anyway to take him that seriously these days. In the past he's been given access well above a lot of bigger outlets and way above what a blog that size should have especially when most of his social media output is now on mastodon to an audience the fraction of his X size. All though I would say EU regulation has far more misses than hits, this and forcing Appl…

> were great but millions of man hours a year are burned navigating cookie banners on every website Cookie banner are not, in fact, an obligation under GDPR. All you need to do to be GDPR compliant is “not collect and sell data to partners” and call it a day. Cookie banners are a loophole that the EC conceded to an ad industry that is addicted to tracking everyone all the time.

> All you need to do to be GDPR compliant is “not collect and sell data to partners”

Are you asserting that I can log IP addresses in my Apache logs? Seems like no one can give me a straight answer there.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by commandersaki »

Does proximity pairing also mean seamless switching between iDevices? As it stands non Apple earphones need to disconnect from the currently paired device to only then connect with another. My Beats Studio pro on the other hand can control primary device and on secondary device I can prompt it to connect and it will switch.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by tt24 »

stavros wrote: post #228
tt24 wrote: post #190

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Okay, so it has to be something you purchase - we're slowly getting closer to the true opinion here. Sony is a monopoly as well then? They decide what gets sold in the Playstation store. Same with Nintendo. Ford and Tesla are monopolies, they solely decide what is software is sold or used in their car's infotainment center stores, despite the fact that I have purchased the car! AWS is a monopoly, despite the fact tha…

If you purchase a physical device, yes. You don't buy devices from AWS, you rent. I'm not sure what's hard about this.

I notice how you intentionally didn't respond to the other two points, interesting.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by tt24 »

anonzzzies wrote: post #219
tt24 wrote: post #192

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Okay, so someone acting against something big and foreign is good? Why?

If they are not playing with local laws, then yes.

What if the local laws are bad? I think it would be good to disobey Turkey's law that requires removal of posts criticizing the current leadership.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by ksec »

simondotau wrote: post #152
ksec wrote: post #101

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>Apple worked to create the USB-C standard, was among the first to widely deploy it. And that is exactly Gruber's take. Apple created USB-C standard and gave it to the USB committee for free. And it is not even half true. But it spread across the internet as if it was verified. The other one being Apple AirPod sold at cost, and suggest Apple invented big.SMALL CPU core.

I haven’t heard anyone make any of those claims in the way you’ve made them. Conversely, the inference you leave readers with from your description of Apple’s contribution to USB-C and CPU design is just as untrue.

>>your description of Apple’s contribution to USB-C and CPU design is just as untrue.

Not my description. Or you mean Gruber's description of Apple's contribution.

His post on USB-C, CPU Design and AirPod is still Up on his site.

Those who actually worked on USB-C before it was even known also posted on HN.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by rock_artist »

isodev wrote: post #5

It’s fascinating the kind of cool features we can have when products are made to be useful, with their target user in mind. Go EU!

I live in the EU and now traveling my family outside the EU. Today I’ve tried updating AltStore but it won’t let me. Even VPNing to my home won’t do it.

So until there will be more incentive to make it globally, the UX is intentionally crippled not only by making the minimal viable but also by region locking.

Imagine pairing headphones working great in EU and then you’re traveling somewhere and it’s broken.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by ksec »

monerozcash wrote: post #103
ksec wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Apple worked to create the USB-C standard, was among the first to widely deploy it. And that is exactly Gruber's take. Apple created USB-C standard and gave it to the USB committee for free. And it is not even half true. But it spread across the internet as if it was verified. The other one being Apple AirPod sold at cost, and suggest Apple invented big.SMALL CPU core.

Of course you could actually try to link to some context on this. Apple certainly didn't create USB-C, but was one of the biggest contributors.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2015/03/14/apple-usbc

And many post before that. But was too late, by that time the words were spread on internet like wildfire. Especially in Apple focused publishing sites.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/03/17/cybart-apple-pr...

I cant find the exact one, but he at the time was suggesting AirPods was sold at cost. Along with plenty of American so called "analyst".

He might have his network within Apple on software. But anything that has to do with Hardware or things like MFi Licensing scheme he is completely wrong.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Post by alextingle »

tiffanyh wrote: post #112
isodev wrote: post #5

It’s fascinating the kind of cool features we can have when products are made to be useful, with their target user in mind. Go EU!

Or it disincentivizes creating those features, if you must give it to your competitors.

Apple giving themselves an advantage in the markets for headphones and watches, because they have a dominant position in the market for phones is a textbook case of monopoly abuse.

They've done extra work to cripple competing devices. It's obnoxious.

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