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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> Windows NT Windows NT what ? Microsoft was always the same.

Windows NT -> Experience what a good microsoft OS was. Especially around NT 3.1, NT 3.5 their goal seemed mostly to have a good competing OS.

Sure, if you ignore all the anticompetitive bullshit they pulled to blackmail high street stores into removing BeOS, DrDOS, Linux and others from their shelves.

And the stunts they pulled to kill other IMs.

Or how they crippled the web for a decade due to killing competing browsers, building Windows lock-ins into IE (eg ActiveX controls), fragmenting Java, and then leaving IE to die themselves.

Or how they lied about Windows 98 requiring IE4.

Or how they didn’t give a crap about OS security until halfway through the life of XP. Leaving literally millions of people vulnerable to a plethora of different forms of attacks from malware to direct hacking on open Telnet ports.

Or how they tried to land grab IRC with their comic book GUI. Which, in fairness, was a novel app. But unfortunately it was another embrace, extend, extinguish play.

Or how they tried to kill ODF with their own faux-open document format: OOXML

Or their constant stream of FUD messaging about Linux being “communism”.

Yeah, MS were really noble in their goals to create a good OS. /s

It’s a pity they couldn’t even manage to do that well given every iteration of Windows has been bloated, buggy, and years behind the competition in terms of performance and capabilities. Windows was never a good OS.

In fact I’d go further and say Microsoft have never release a good OS. Even their versions of BASIC sucked compared to the competition.

Microsoft have always been good at negotiating with businesses. It’s why Azure is used in governments, why Windows is the “business platform”, and why 9x beat the competition in the 90s despite being consistently the worst in class for basically every metric you could think of.

Windows didn’t succeed because it was good. Microsoft succeeded because Bill Gates was ruthless!

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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How worse can this get? Let's share more product ideas for Microsoft.

Right, I always wanted a career in hell: 1. I think it should be mandatory to have your webcam and microphone on 24/7 for, uh, your safety, especially your children's safety (you never know when a pedophile will hide under your bed!). physical workarounds or disabling them is a TOS violation and will turn your machine off and unable to start again until hardware is restored (again, for your safety). Of course you als…

Awesome! Now they will try to hire you, as SVP of Customer Exploitation.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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"again"? What they did in the past seems absolutely neighbourly compared to what they're doing now. Get a VM of Windows 9x/2k/XP to experience what "good Microsoft" was like.

The other day I installed Windows 7 on a VM for fun.. it was not fun at all. I got weird wave of nostalgic sadness, like being teleported back in time, I felt/remembered how things were back in ~2010, the culture, my university life, how things were with an ex gf, ALL of it. The OS is engrained in my mind and it was gorgeous seeing those aero effects and hearing the startup sounds again. It is so simple and easy. It…

> and it won't change by itself for months

That’s… not a good sell at all

Promise me a decade and I’ll bite. (Joke’s on me, I’ll need to get out of this windows shithole asap)

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You can pay for professional services. In Sweden the only one I ever got support with was Google, so it’s not a universal experience (I didn’t pay for professional services). I believe you and I have had this discussion before.

Yes, and I told you those professional services were nowhere to be found, while in AWS and Azure we actually got people on the phone, so do you want to have this discussion again?

yeah. Because I have the opposite experience.

So I think when either of us talk about it as if it’s universal we are both wrong.

So every time you make a claim, I’ll be there.

Your experience with Google, it’s mine with AWS.

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> Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft What? How? From a user's perspective, everything has gotten steadily worse under his reign. Solitaire is now a subscription service. I long for the halcyon days of Windows 8.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome) Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolte…

Ancient LDAP is probably the best they still offer. A far superior way for internal auth and vastly superior for companies that need on premise infrastructure. Nobody wants internal apps that auth through AWS or GCP.

I hate registering a shitty app and use their modern auth flow. No security gain for additional maintenance.

For that matter, this is a main reason why Windows is so established. The logistic problem of distributing user accounts on several machines.

And no, a virtual and slow cloud Windows is not an alternative for anyone that wants to be productive.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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I think in this case, Microsoft has shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates. This has happened during my time working retail and the mom and pops are helpless when this happens. I would never trust Microsoft to bake ai agents in..

> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

Yes. Since 199x.

macOS does the same thing. When I actually sleep, when my laptop's lid is closed. I wake up. My Mac wants a password instead of a fingerprint. It says it has updated the OS when I was snoring. What's the difference?

Every app, every window, everything is the way I left before closing the lid. My computer is updated, rebooted and ready for the day. Like nothing happened.

Linux is the same deal. If the desktop environment is upgraded a logout and login is necessary (and KDE restores session as well as macOS for the last decade, at least), and if I updated the kernel, I reboot. I'm back in 30 seconds, to the exact point that I left.

Only Windows takes 2 hours, 4 reboots, 3 blood sacrifices and countless frustration sounds to upgrade. While saturating the processor and the storage subsystem at the same time, which makes my computer create the same sounds of the said blood sacrifices.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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I don't want this feature. I have LaTeX documents on my computer containing my personal thoughts. Some of them I want to keep to myself. And some of them contain my own ideas that I find embarrassing. I don't want to hand those documents over to Microsoft servers, nor do I want them used for AI training. I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine.

Lol, then don't use Windows. Why anyone trusts their personal data to closed source software, and especially closed source software by an empirically hostile corporation like Microsoft is beyond me.

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Yes, and I told you those professional services were nowhere to be found, while in AWS and Azure we actually got people on the phone, so do you want to have this discussion again?

yeah. Because I have the opposite experience. So I think when either of us talk about it as if it’s universal we are both wrong. So every time you make a claim, I’ll be there. Your experience with Google, it’s mine with AWS.

See you next time, until my GCP experience improves.
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