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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

> Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft What? How? From a user's perspective, everything has gotten steadily worse under his reign. Solitaire is now a subscription service. I long for the halcyon days of Windows 8.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome)

Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolted products onto Active Directory which is ancient LDAP tech. It's a massive flaw in how Azure works and why it's 10x more complicated than AWS or GCP.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel What happens if the agent books the wrong travel? I guess that the burden of canceling and getting a refund is on the user, not on Microsoft. And if no cancelation is possible? I'm sure that Microsoft is going to create the Agentic Refunds department to pay money to the people they did not serve well /s

You put more thought into this than MS product team.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#134

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Microsoft once pushed an update that started uploading my data to OneDrive. I had no idea until I was kindly informed that my cloud storage was out of space. At this point I would ALWAYS assume that anything I do on a Windows system is not completely private, and the only true way to make a PC secure from Microsoft is to air-gap it. Also, this is completely ridiculous.

You basically have to treat all components of Windows as malware. Your personal threat model needs to include Microsoft as an attacker.

I have a Windows VM with net access (through a consumer VPN) that I install software in, make sure it's all up to date and whatnot. To do any real work I then take a snapshot and run it on its own VLAN with the only reachable thing being my own samba server.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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I think in this case, Microsoft has shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates. This has happened during my time working retail and the mom and pops are helpless when this happens. I would never trust Microsoft to bake ai agents in..

> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

The amount of money lost when millions of small restaurants and other retail shops suddenly become unable to accept customer payments for an unknown amount of time because Microsoft thinks Windows should force update during rush hour rather than allowing the computer owner to wait until closing time, would seem to be far greater than the amount of money lost with once-in-10-years WannaCry attacks

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in this case, Microsoft has shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates. This has happened during my time working retail and the mom and pops are helpless when this happens. I would never trust Microsoft to bake ai agents in..

> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

Are you aware that MS already sells an operating system that can install patches without rebooting? Are you also aware that Linux can do the same? Why can't a supposedly mature 40 year old operating system do the same? Do you have any concept of the number of man-hours it would save globally? The amount of lost work? The impact on patching compliance and security?

My guess is they don't actually believe they have any competition, and therefore don't care to improve anything that doesn't also improve their bottom line.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft What? How? From a user's perspective, everything has gotten steadily worse under his reign. Solitaire is now a subscription service. I long for the halcyon days of Windows 8.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome) Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolte…

  It's a massive flaw in how Azure works and why it's 10x more complicated than AWS or GCP.
Wait until you try OCI.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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I don't want this feature. I have LaTeX documents on my computer containing my personal thoughts. Some of them I want to keep to myself. And some of them contain my own ideas that I find embarrassing. I don't want to hand those documents over to Microsoft servers, nor do I want them used for AI training. I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine.

Why would you ever keep private thoughts on your PC? That's asking for trouble

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything before CoPilot was pretty standard CEO stuff. The real change was internally. Satya is well-known for eradicating the "Art of War" environment and bringing workers together. He also fully embraced open-source (Balmer hated OSS) and R&D has continued to innovate. (Still boggles the mind that F# exists and is awesome) Prior to CoPilot, my only beef was that Azure needs a ground up re-architecture. They bolte…

It's a massive flaw in how Azure works and why it's 10x more complicated than AWS or GCP. Wait until you try OCI.

That's never going to happen. I'm more or less locked into AWS at this point, though for my personal stuff I'm using my linode server a lot.

I thought Oracle Cloud was designed by AWS alum and was supposed to be solid?

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