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Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#231

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> the project is essentially fraudulent Even if it's not, ESR is involved so it's not serious.

So, I understand first hand ESR might be a little, uh, eccentric, when dealing with humans. But it seems that his nerding, taken by itself, is pretty solid. Is that not the case?

No, I don't think it is.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#232

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> the project is essentially fraudulent Even if it's not, ESR is involved so it's not serious.

So, I understand first hand ESR might be a little, uh, eccentric, when dealing with humans. But it seems that his nerding, taken by itself, is pretty solid. Is that not the case?

It’s fairly limited: taking over maintenance for popmail or forking NTPSec certainly isn’t nothing but his reputation is built on the Cathedral and Bazaar essay getting attention at the right time in the 90s when open source was really taking off and his subsequent OSI work. I’d wager that an order of magnitude more people heard about fetchmail from his writing rather than the other way around.

That’s not to say that his open source projects aren’t useful, only that there are thousands of other developers who’ve done work of similar scale and adoption.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#233

This was submitted with a title that doesn’t match the page and is not even accurste (Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up) is not correct. This donation page is not for the public NTP pool. It’s for the NTP Project organization and their web page. All of the angry comments from people who think NTP will stop working if the donation bar doesn’t get to $1000 are misinformed. Also note that the bar isn’t upda…

Oh wow. I’m sorry. I should have done more due diligence and a better title.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#234

This was submitted with a title that doesn’t match the page and is not even accurste (Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up) is not correct. This donation page is not for the public NTP pool. It’s for the NTP Project organization and their web page. All of the angry comments from people who think NTP will stop working if the donation bar doesn’t get to $1000 are misinformed. Also note that the bar isn’t upda…

Oh wow. I’m sorry. I should have done more due diligence and a better title.

for the record: it was 300$ of 1k when I saw this site. 12h later it changed to 11k?? what happened no idea.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#235

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Oh wow. I’m sorry. I should have done more due diligence and a better title.

for the record: it was 300$ of 1k when I saw this site. 12h later it changed to 11k?? what happened no idea.

my suggestion: stop donating! unless until they clarify what’s going on. the goal said 1k

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#236

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I think maybe the title of this topic post is the main source of misinformation.

It’s definitely the title. The title is a plain and simple lie.

yeah. Lesson learned: never share on HN late at night without paying more attention. I’m sorry guys. It wasn’t my intention at all, I was trying to learn about time syncing and thought they really needed help to keep the site and devs support up. 2 months left and 1k goal looked sad and perfect for us to help. I failed in the title badly and no idea what they are doing by changing the goal. I will dig deeper later. It was 100% my fault. Stop donating. I only hope they are not a scam. :/

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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post #20

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It is kind of vague IMO. Especially since most of the actual NTP infrastructure is run by governments, universities, and companies. https://gist.github.com/mutin-sa/eea1c396b1e610a2da1e5550d94... But..it's $1k. This is basically pocket change on an institutional level. I've been part of some very scrappy and poorly funded community organizations and even they took in more than $1k every year. Even if you don't believ…

We're talking about $1000. In context i would assume its their hosting bill. I can't imagine its much more than that if we are talking about such a small sum.

I assumed their hosting bill

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#238
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Turn what off?

Time itself maybe, I know I could use with a little bit of a pause.

I really enjoyed the first part (say 2-3 weeks) of COVID lockdowns, we had the longest in the world here and it got pretty old by the end of it, but the first few weeks, no traffic, no noise, quiet city.

It was like a vacation for our heads.

Not sure how, but a yearly "lockdown vacation" would be a Good Thing for our cities (IMNSHO).

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#239
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I tried to donate, but apparently I am not human: > 1 error prohibited this submission from being saved: > Looks like you are not a human Good to know.

Same - first time the requirement for first name + last name bounced me, the next two times reCAPTCHA bounced me. Gave up then.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#240
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Even a single highly paid employee of a FAANG, many of whom frequent this very forum, could pay for a year without breaking the bank.

100% true, but they shouldn't have to. If FAANG is using it, they should fund it. I don't want to work in a culture where the employees pay for the corporations' tools.

I totally agree. I wasn't explicit enough I just wanted to point out the absurdity of the major corps not bothering to just automatically fund these things. I.e. it being such a small amount compared to salaries which presumably are low enough to maintain large profits.
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