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Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by williamdclt »

krapp wrote: post #190
barry-cotter wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he also wasn‘t European looking (should be obvious). Spaniards, Egyptians, Greeks and Levantines all look very similar and Jesus was definitely of the Levant. I hope you won’t deny Spaniards and Greeks are European.

In this context, "European" means "white." Jesus probably did not look like the bearded white hippie commonly depicted in Western (primarily American and British) iconography. Spaniards, Egyptians, Greeks and Levantines may or may not look similar (seems a bit broad, like the geographical definition of "European") but they also don't often look like "white people." Especially not in Egypt or the Levant.

Never heard of spanish people or greeks not being considered "white".

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by throw0101d »

mikepurvis wrote: post #86
fsckboy wrote: post #20

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pretty much everything is in the Bible if you look, even automobiles: "and G-d drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden in His Fury" https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=plymouth%20fury&ia=images&i...

Joshua 6:27 KJV: "The Lord was with Joshua and his Triumph was heard throughout the land." https://www.google.com/search?q=trumph+motorcycle

I own a Street Triple, so do not object to his search, but it should also be remembered:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Motor_Company

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by antonvs »

throwway120385 wrote: post #216
yurishimo wrote: post #181

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Exactly this. Meat is a huge source of nutrition. Even though in our modern western society, we might not "need" to eat meat, but it's a hearty, plentiful, accessible protein and fat that stores well and can be easily moved and replicated quickly. It's simply much more practical still to keep eating meat in much of the world. I'm not going to go into the arguments about our biology either, but I think it's safe to sa…

Eating Grandma is actually a really good way to get parasites and prion diseases, so there's more to it than just cultural acceptability. The reason we don't risk parasites from farmed meat is because it's dewormed and treated and inspected and cleaned.

"Time for your deworming, Granny! I'm hungry!"

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by throw0101d »

titanomachy wrote: post #49
fsckboy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pretty much everything is in the Bible if you look, even automobiles: "and G-d drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden in His Fury" https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=plymouth%20fury&ia=images&i...

“Jesus and his disciples were all in one Accord”

Given there were 1+12 of them, you'd think they'd use an Odyssey.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by rhet0rica »

schrectacular wrote: post #204
bambax wrote: post #161

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Not sure what the quote has to do with anything here, but it's a as good an opportunity as ever to say that large parts of the "Old Testament" draw most of its inspiration from the code of Hammurabi ("an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"), the Epic of Gilgamesh (which gave us, notably, the story of the deluge, and the dark role of the serpent) and Ancient Egypt, to which it owes, among many others, the concept of…

"Magi" were priests of Zoraster. It is true that our current word for magic is derived from this root but that doesn't mean that the text is saying they were _magicians_.

The two concepts were often one in the same—a "magician" was simply any art that "we" considered to be not in keeping with "our" religious practices. The label was slung about freely for some thousand years.

There are some philosophers who attempted to divide miracles from magic. They tended to classify the latter as esoteric science confined entirely to the natural world with no supernatural elements, and the former as invoking the aid of some confirmed divine being. When one considers souls and demiurges to be part of the natural world, however, even this most imaginative delineation is an inherently blurry one.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by throw0101d »

alpinisme wrote: post #98
jfengel wrote: post #81

Restaurants (at least in the US) have very strict standards about how long you can keep something at room temperature before you have to throw it away. Those standards are extremely conservative, and lead to a lot of food waste, but if I were on the staff I'd at least want to keep an eye on how long something has been sitting out. Those standards have just been beaten into me. You also see that on a lot of fictional…

That and nobody wants to eat a meal 40 times to get 40 takes.

> That and nobody wants to eat a meal 40 times to get 40 takes.

Except maybe Brad Pitt (see Ocean's Eleven).

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by kridsdale1 »

lazide wrote: post #145
schneehertz wrote: post #132

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Mencius, a thinker from over 300 BC, once said: "A gentleman, in his attitude towards animals, having seen them alive, cannot bear to see them die; having heard their cries, cannot bear to eat their flesh. Therefore, a gentleman keeps his distance from the kitchen." The background of this statement is as follows: King Xuan of Qi once saw a man leading an ox to be slaughtered. Moved by the ox's sorrowful appearance, h…

And then King Xuan declared war on a neighboring kingdom of course, leading to hundreds of thousands of humans dying? The core nature of humanity is absurdity.

All moral frameworks get suspended in time of war.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by krapp »

williamdclt wrote: post #231
krapp wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this context, "European" means "white." Jesus probably did not look like the bearded white hippie commonly depicted in Western (primarily American and British) iconography. Spaniards, Egyptians, Greeks and Levantines may or may not look similar (seems a bit broad, like the geographical definition of "European") but they also don't often look like "white people." Especially not in Egypt or the Levant.

Never heard of spanish people or greeks not being considered "white".

Read an American history book.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by krapp »

watwut wrote: post #228
krapp wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this context, "European" means "white." Jesus probably did not look like the bearded white hippie commonly depicted in Western (primarily American and British) iconography. Spaniards, Egyptians, Greeks and Levantines may or may not look similar (seems a bit broad, like the geographical definition of "European") but they also don't often look like "white people." Especially not in Egypt or the Levant.

As an European, I find the definition of European that excludes Spaniards super weird. Likewise, not counting Spaniards into white is weird too, but at least it does not betray complete lack of knowledge about what counts as Europe.

>As an European, I find the definition of European that excludes Spaniards super weird.

Because you are, as I suspect many people will, intentionally misreading the context of my comment.

I am implying that the use of "European" herein does not literally refer to the geographic region known as "Europe," but rather that in the context of a statement about the likely physical appearance of Jesus it should be understood as a statement about race and ethnicity whereby "European" is a politically correct descriptor for the common set of physical traits often described as "white," as is represented in Western depictions of Jesus, particularly where traits like skin color, eye color and hair color are concerned.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by DonHopkins »

throwway120385 wrote: post #216
yurishimo wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Meat is a huge source of nutrition. Even though in our modern western society, we might not "need" to eat meat, but it's a hearty, plentiful, accessible protein and fat that stores well and can be easily moved and replicated quickly. It's simply much more practical still to keep eating meat in much of the world. I'm not going to go into the arguments about our biology either, but I think it's safe to sa…

Eating Grandma is actually a really good way to get parasites and prion diseases, so there's more to it than just cultural acceptability. The reason we don't risk parasites from farmed meat is because it's dewormed and treated and inspected and cleaned.

Free Range Grandma is more humane, but has more parasites.
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