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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by throwaway83094 »

clcaev wrote: post #191
robin_reala wrote: post #188

Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50…

You could choose not to engage with communities that force you to use platforms that violate your rights. No need to cut anyone off for now, but something to keep in mind for the future.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by IshKebab »

cornfieldlabs wrote: post #219
IshKebab wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah... aside from all the very obvious problems with this (network effects, most friends aren't weird techy no-images types, etc.)... the moment has passed. Nobody is going to trust another tech company with their real name & permanent social life again. They've seen what happens.

True though. We will be adding support for images in the next release. We can add an option to export all data (in the pipeline) and let users delete account and data in one click (available on first release) but I don't know what else can be done. End to end encryption is hard and I am not a programmer capable of implementing it safe enough to stop NSA level threats. We will do what we can.

> I don't know what else can be done

I don't think there's anything technical you can do. I think it would require:

1. A stable income stream that doesn't depend on something at odds with your goals (i.e. not like Mozilla).

2. Incorporate as a non-profit with rock-solid "we're never going to transition to for-profit" legal terms.

I think Wikipedia is probably the closest thing we have to that, but even they don't have a reliable income source. I mean, they have more money than they know what to do with and waste most of it on outreach nonsense rather than putting it into an endowment... but it's not exactly a reliable source of money.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by ethbr1 »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #212
nelox wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Venus, in her naked glory, I could understand at a stretch, but Saturn?

Can’t really see much nakedness through all those CO2 clouds.

Mystery is the font of desire.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by ethbr1 »

rglullis wrote: post #190
conartist6 wrote: post #186

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Mmmmhm, which means the humans now understand that they should be callous and cold. If they're not rubber stamping rejections all the time then the AI isn't doing anything useful by making a feed of easy-to-reject applications. The system will become evil even if it has humans in it because they have been given no power to resist the incentives

> humans now understand that they should be callous and cold Were humans working on health insurance claims previously known for being warm and tend to err on the side of the patient?

> Were humans working on health insurance claims previously known for being warm and tend to err on the side of the patient?

I know that in the continuously audited FEP space, human claims processors were at 95%+ accuracy (vs audited correct results).

Often with sub-2 min per claim processing times.

The irony is that GP's system is exactly how you would want this deployed into production. Fail safe, automate happy path, HITL on everything else.

With the net result that those people can spend longer looking at more difficult claims. (For the same cost)

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Post by tclancy »

nelox wrote: post #194
notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

Venus, in her naked glory, I could understand at a stretch, but Saturn?

If you won’t take to arms for Venus, when will you?

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Post by mslansn »

xoxxala wrote: post #198
samtheprogram wrote: post #131

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I would love a source about the immigration form. That would at least make more sense. Weed is legal in half of the US. As a citizen, I find the story troubling. The tweets just saying “drug use” and then you hear it’s weed is ridiculous. Why wouldn’t they just state that they lied on their immigration form about drug use?

BBC has a video on the story. DHS says it was drug use not the meme. https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c5y2l9nn7y1o

Of course the story was fabricated, but we live in a post-truth world. The mistake was believing the story from the beginning; the story was obvious nonsense.

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Post by School-Cotton »

samtheprogram wrote: post #131
blub wrote: post #76

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According to the thread on /r/europe that person smoked weed and lied about it on their immigration form.

I would love a source about the immigration form. That would at least make more sense. Weed is legal in half of the US. As a citizen, I find the story troubling. The tweets just saying “drug use” and then you hear it’s weed is ridiculous. Why wouldn’t they just state that they lied on their immigration form about drug use?

Weed is illegal everywhere in the US. The federal government has a policy of, in most cases, not bothering to enforce the law in states that have stopped also making it illegal under their own separate legal codes. However that doesn’t mean it’s actually legal because federal law applies everywhere.
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