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Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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I’m amazed at how some engineers cheer for layoffs thinking they’re safe. The naivety really is something to behold. Or maybe they’re bots. Unclear.

Nobody here is cheering. Layoffs suck too.

These are layoffs. See what he did there?

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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I'm not trying to apologize for Meta here, but sometimes companies make bad hiring decisions, or good workers get lazy/apathetic.

Or have children causing distractions, or get injured etc.

Or having their house burned down with not enough PTO remaining..

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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I am lukewarm about unions, but if that shit would be the new work norm I would go hard left. Wouldn’t be every coworker a competitor? How do you plan your life or start a family if you are every year 10% likely of being fired or backstabbed?

It's not like the firing is random. "Low performers" get a lot of warnings throughout the year. Most people are average or above so they will be completely unaffected, it's not likely you would drop from 50th percentile to 5th. On the other hand, do you really want to be stuck working with someone who's not very competent? I think we've all had that experience and it's miserable.

It's not the perception of "randomness" that is a problem, it's the arbitrary figure attributed to getting fired with no comment on methodology or the attributes that will get you fired.

We assume there would probably be PIP for those individuals in this hypothetical scenario. However even then, saying "10 percent of our workforce will guaranteed be subject to PIP and or firing as a matter of our staffing methodology" instantly turns much of your working time into fluffing your work and backstabbing colleagues.

OR running away at great speed.

OR telling investorts "We do not grow, we abritrarilly trim regardless of market forces."

AKA, GE.

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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post #156

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I am lukewarm about unions, but if that shit would be the new work norm I would go hard left. Wouldn’t be every coworker a competitor? How do you plan your life or start a family if you are every year 10% likely of being fired or backstabbed?

It's not like the firing is random. "Low performers" get a lot of warnings throughout the year. Most people are average or above so they will be completely unaffected, it's not likely you would drop from 50th percentile to 5th. On the other hand, do you really want to be stuck working with someone who's not very competent? I think we've all had that experience and it's miserable.

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Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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In terms of a cultural moment it feels like the 80s. Millions of his voters weren’t ideological conservatives but didn’t fully disagree and like the strength Reagan projected after the turmoil of the mid 60s through the 70s. They abandoned the movement during bush senior and the Clinton years.

The 80s were a reaction to the "liberal" 70s. It's just the natural cycle of history, the majority of people are in the center so when culture shifts too far to one side they start pushing it back.

There’s definitely an element of rubber banding and I think this time some of it is built up resentment about how liberals dominated big cultural institutions like TV and movies. That said I don’t think everyone who voted for trump cares about this, but the malaise of the Biden presidency was a powerful proximate factor

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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The goal is to replace that 5% with new hires, resulting in higher average performance. It has nothing to do with total hiring amount.

... and correspondingly lower salaries.

That is the definition of higher performance. Greater contribute output for less input

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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Exactly, and expecting every position needs to be clubbed together as left or right wing is also a big issue. eg I am politically liberal on most of the issues, but if I mention one thing for which I am not on their camp I suddenly become far right.

Really kinda depends on what that one thing is though don't you think.

Yeah, we’re being abstract, but it is a sort of important detail, haha.

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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post #156

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I am lukewarm about unions, but if that shit would be the new work norm I would go hard left. Wouldn’t be every coworker a competitor? How do you plan your life or start a family if you are every year 10% likely of being fired or backstabbed?

It's not like the firing is random. "Low performers" get a lot of warnings throughout the year. Most people are average or above so they will be completely unaffected, it's not likely you would drop from 50th percentile to 5th. On the other hand, do you really want to be stuck working with someone who's not very competent? I think we've all had that experience and it's miserable.

This is quite disingenuous. “Low performers” in many of these companies aren’t low performers. It’s often whoever the boss likes the least due to whatever reason.

I’ve rarely seen anyone let go and thought the person was a low performer. Most of the time the person was fired because they questioned authority.

Re: Meta announces 5% cuts in preparation for 'intense year'

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Isn't this quite paradoxical that those kind of companies have hard interviews where you have to almost prove that P=NP in front of 5 people that judges everything you do, yet they fire engineer because "ratio"? Could this lead to a manager that tries to have the best team for himself will always include average employees that they can easily fire?

> Isn't this quite paradoxical that those kind of companies have hard interviews where you have to almost prove that P=NP in front of 5 people that judges everything you do Interview process at Meta isn't that hard. Mostly medium leetcode questions (in front of single interviewer), not particularly tricky. With enough preparation, it's doable by any reasonably good undergrad. Google was slightly harder though. Simila…

It's a bit like a sport, you can have the skills and yet still have an off day or perform worse under pressure, so it's not just a matter of preparation.
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