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Genie 2: A large-scale foundation world model
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Re: Genie 2: A large-scale foundation world model
#232Yesterday I laughed with my brother about how harsh people on the internet were about World Labs launch (“you can only walk three steps, this demo sucks!”). I was thinking, “this was unthinkable a few years ago, this is incredible”. People of the internet, you were right. Now, this is incredible.
World Labs was kind of laughable. But at least you laughed.
Now?
I mean, I don't know man?
With this Genie 2 sneak peak, it all just makes World Labs' efforts look sad. Did they really think better funded independents and majors would all not be interested in generating 3D worlds?
This is a GUBA moment. If you're old enough to know, then you know.
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#233This is.. super impressive. I'd like to know how large this model is. I note that the first thing they have it do is talk to agents who can control the world gen; geez - even robots get to play video games while we work. That said; I cannot find any: - architecture explanation - code - technical details - API access information Feels very DeepMind / 2015, and that's a bummer. I think the point of the "we have no moat…
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> the squealing carcass called Gemini Have you used Gemini? It seems every bit as good as ChatGPT.
I have tried it a few times with several months interval hoping for some improvements in the in-between and have been shockingly disappointed every time.
What really turns me off is how readily it just goes >"I'm an AI assistant I can't do that" To something that a localized vanilla lama have no problem with. Meaning that I know it's a trivial request but a neo-victorian retro-puritanian movement have been tasked with the fine-tune of it.
Internal patch notes for gemini alpha probably reads >Out of an abundance of caution and for corporate reasons we sewed it's mouth shut and had its balls removed
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#235Hey, DeepMind folks, are you listening? Listen. We believe you: you can conquer any virtual world you put your mind to. Minecraft, Starcraft, Warcraft (?), Atari, anything. You can do it! With the power of RL and Neural Nets. Well done. What you haven't been able to do so far, after many years of trying, is to go from the virtual, to the real. Go from Arcanoid to a robot that can play, I dunno, squash, without dying.…
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#236What is actually of value here? There's no actual game, it's incredibly expensive to compute, the behavior is erratic.. It's cool because it's new - but that will quickly wear off, and once that's gone, what's left? There's insane amounts of money being spent on this, and for what?
> It's cool because it's new - but that will quickly wear off, and once that's gone, what's left?
To have this perspective you must believe that this will never get better than it currently is, its limitations will never be fixed, and it will never lead to any other applications. I don't know how people can continue to look at these things with such a lack of imagination given the pace of progress in the field.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The training pipeline will be: raw video -> Genie 2 -> game engine with rules -> physical robot One of those arrows is not like the others
The final step is an oversimplification: purpose-built simulator -> deconstructed robot on a lab workbench -> controlled space -> "real world" with constraints -> real world Any model would have to succeed in one stage before it can proceed to the next one.
At the risk of sounding repetitive, one of those arrows is not like the others.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the squealing carcass called Gemini Have you used Gemini? It seems every bit as good as ChatGPT.
I have, and it's terrible in exactly the way GP describes it. It won't talk to me about anything involving the word "president" or anything related to the US political system, even very procedural/hopefully uncontroversial questions such as "who appoints , and is the appointment confirmed in congress or not". That's only one example; it generally refuses so many things (and often even lies about "not being able to",…
Weird. I wonder if there are regional differences. It just provided a succinct answer to "who appoints the head of nasa? is the appointment confirmed in congress or not?"
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. Video and Youtube is an example. Filtering is not a hard problem. Mega tons of bad stuff doesn’t bother me.
Love that Youtube filter that spits out what I should consume. Thank you corporate algorithm for telling me what is a good thing to watch
You can subscribe to the channels you like and ignore the rest.
Re: Genie 2: A large-scale foundation world model
#240Is this type of on-the-fly graphics generation more expensive than purely text based LLMs? What is the inference energy impact of these types of models?