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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Staross wrote: post #39
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

>And it's basically not possible to escape that environment until the plane lands Ever heard of closing your eyes ?

For five hours?

It takes a lot of meditation practice to get up to "entire plane flight" level.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Dylan16807 »

croes wrote: post #63
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

In a crowded plane you don't want to sit next to someone who tuned out their environment

Why not? It sounds pretty good to me.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by accrual »

DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

It's possible for those concerned with this to overcome it! Most people are way more focused on themselves than whatever a random person is wearing in public, and will likely forget the encounter the second they set foot off the plane.

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Post by accrual »

isodev wrote: post #156
DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

Yup, the person wearing one literally gets the “drives a cybertruck” spotlight.

At least the AVP seems like a reasonably engineered piece of equipment. The cybertruck has a seemingly unending list of flaws documented in /r/cyberstuck.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by ghaff »

calf wrote: post #224
edmundsauto wrote: post #2

I recently took a long flight and brought my Quest device, set to travel mode. It worked great! Pretty much the same experience as this article describes. One protip, I bought a 512G flash drive and loaded it with content. Then I could pop the drive in and play movies off it. I did not want to deal with needing connectivity for DRM or other server checks. Highly recommend that people try this out, the next time you t…

I have a Quest One collecting dust, but now I'm thinking it might be fun to bring it on a long flight if I know the onboard entertainment will be really lacking--some airlines I've been on have really reduced the TV/movie selections for some reason.

An iPad works pretty well for in-flight entertainment like video or reading. Though I’ll just bring a Kindle on a shorter trip where I sort of know I won’t be watching video.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Terretta »

baxtr wrote: post #214
willemlaurentz wrote: post #3

Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working at home with Vision Pro - I wouldn't wear it out in public. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437

Can you elaborate on the working part? I tested the device in an Apple Store and was blown away by the experience. Such an amazing tool to explore, enjoy and relax. The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.

> The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.

Both my iPad Pro and my Vision Pro have a keyboard and trackpad:

- The iPad Pro of course uses the excellent Magic Keyboard.

- The Vision Pro uses an Apple keyboard w/o numpad side by side with the Magic Trackpad, in a custom tray to hold both. (Make sure that your carryon's front pocket can hold the full tray.)

For sure if I thought I could only do work on a MacBook not an iPad Pro (what most people seem to think, insisting iPad is a consumption device), then I definitely couldn't work on a Vision Pro.

But once you've figured out how to code (e.g. VSCode using blink code, or Koder, Working Copy, Textastic, etc.), do graphic design (e.g. Affinity suite), or run Office on an iPad (Teams, Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, Excel), the Vision Pro does those too but with "all the app windows at once" (ofc, iPad Pro 13" makes excellent use of Stage Manager for window groups).

All that said, I haven't felt a burden to pull AVP out on the plane.

iPad Pro 13" HDR with AirPods Pro USB-C using Spatial Audio that anchors to your iPad screen seem more than enough. Especially since you can share audio with a seat mate who also has AirPods, and both watch the same movie together.

Not often talked about: for doing real work, do consider a fresh glasses prescription and the Zeiss add-ins. To keep windows rectangular instead of trapezoid, insist you're under 40 regardless of your age, otherwise Zeiss do a stealth "progressive" that warps window sizes.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by DrillShopper »

edm0nd wrote: post #153
DrillShopper wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but I fail to see how that matters. I don't care if he wrote the fucking Bible - he's a mass murderer and the world was better with him in Supermax.

Side note, he was an extremely talented math nerd and his manifesto did raise some interesting questions about technology and society. I wouldn't exactly call him a "mass murderer", he only actually killed 3 people over a 17 year time span. IMO a "mass murderer" kills a lot of people all at once in a single location, for example, like McVeigh.

He only successfully killed 3 people - he definitely tried to kill more. That has to enter into the calculus. Not only that, by sending his packages through the mail he endangered many many more people in the process.

Relatedly: What's the threshold for you for body count before someone loses credibility? 5? 10? 100? 1000?

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Dylan16807 »

latexr wrote: post #211
dagmx wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would require a serendipitous level of - sitting next to someone who you get along with and don’t run out of things to talk about for the entire duration of the flight - neither one of you wanting to sleep or do anything else for the duration of the flight either - not caring about the other passengers around you who might also want to sleep

I was on a flight not too long ago where the two people sitting next to me had apparently just met. They were from different countries travelling for different reasons. They had a friendly chat for a while about where they were from, why they were on that plane, and some things they enjoyed to do. The whole interaction lasted maybe twenty minutes, from sitting to take off. Then they said “cheers”, one of them went to…

So what I get out of this is that while they were nice and friendly and had a good chat, they also tuned each other out for basically the entire flight. Sounds like an example in favor of dagmx's argument, which is not to be unfriendly, but that friendliness is rarely a way to pass multiple hours in a plane.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by dailykoder »

DutchRanger wrote: post #18

I take out my earbuds even saying Hi to the bus driver I can't imagine talking to a flight attendant while wearing a VR device. It seems very uninterested in the person you are talking to. Could be just me but I think a lot of older generations share this experience. It is not hard to take out your earbuds or take off your VR device to show you are paying attention to the person you are talking to.

>Could be just me but I think a lot of older generations share this experience.

I am only 32 and wouldn't consider myself old.

I used to get very uncomfortable, maybe even angry, when people at the cashier in the supermarket just did not get off their headphones and just leave a simple hello to the person at the counter. Nowadays I am just mildly irritated sometimes, but I still think it's stupid. Especially if the cashier is a really nice and polite person. Leaving on your headphones and not saying a word, sometimes not even giving them a look, feels like a f- you in their face. Just be nice to other people and it even works if you are a very socially awkward person like me. The world can be nice and even give you a smile every once in a while.

This obviously got worse since corona. Germany used to be a cash-heavy country, but now since "everyone" is just paying by card, they just pull it out, wave around with it to signal that they want to pay with it, so that they don't even have to say one single word. So weird.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by ghaff »

pradn wrote: post #196
sylens wrote: post #27

Just reading this blog makes me feel like it is actually not a great device to travel with. For me, a good travel device is one that takes up minimal room when packing to the point where it becomes easy to forget I even have it in my bag. The Vision Pro typically requires its own dedicated spot on top of your carry on as you go through the airport - kind of the opposite. The author talks about just packing it with a…

I've stopped carrying my over-ear noise-cancelling headphones for this reason. They take up like a quarter/half of a normal item-sized backpack. I can sleep with plane noise. But I always bring a sleep mask, because I can't sleep with bright lights turning on and off all the time. I did recently get some in-ear headphones w/ noise cancelling, perhaps they're enough. There's always the fear of losing stuff when you're…

There are both wired and wireless noise canceling earbuds that work well. Never had an interest in the bulky over the ear ones. I pack pretty light even for 2-3 week trips.
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