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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by mat_epice »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

Google’s AI tool says that 20-25% of the world’s population flies at least three times a year. Not a good source, but at least a surprising statistic if true.

Some hard data says that 12% of US flyers take 66% of flights [1]. Those are all likely very frequent fliers, and is much more than 1%.

1. https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2021/03/31...

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by tesch1 »

ljf wrote: post #40
willemlaurentz wrote: post #3

Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working at home with Vision Pro - I wouldn't wear it out in public. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437

It is also one of the few public places to 'safely' do it. Would you feel comfortable wearing one and limiting your awareness of your surroundings on a public bus? In a coffee shop? Sitting outside a coffee shop? In a park? In a pub? And also your answers may be yes if you are male, but I can imagine in the current world we live in a lot of women would feel potentially at risk if they were wearing these in public.

Train travel is great with one too.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by fjuskpl »

walthamstow wrote: post #9
fjuskpl wrote: post #4

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Welcome to the forum. I think that's an unfair take. They say specifically that anything more than a very simple conversation (what would you like? tea please) and they'll take it off.

Take it off for all interactions with others, yes even “would you like a drink? Yes, tea”.

Why is that simple interaction somehow exempted from “showing others respect”?

Like is he too busy blasting porn into his retinas to take it off?

Or has he paused whatever he’s using the headset for for even that interaction?

Then why leave the mask on?

The whole pass thru tech is so you can see a keyboard or pick up a cup or write something down on paper.

The digital recreation of eyes is a strange dystopian solution looking for a problem.

Saying “I’ve yet to have a problem” is absurd cope.

Ps- welcome to the forum to you too. Apparently I should assume you’re new here or you’d understand that even people who have been participating here for years can still create new accounts.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by blargey »

goalieca wrote: post #37
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. It's boring but not oppressive. It's okay to let the mind wander without completely disconnecting yourself from reality.

I hope you repeat that lecture to everyone wearing an eyemask trying to sleep, or wearing heaphones for their in-flight movie (god forbid they brought noise-cancelling ones!)

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by DrillShopper »

pmarreck wrote: post #67
DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

I was a high school computer nerd in the 80's. They all said that about me then too, and I didn't care. But to your point, it will probably get slicker over time. For this one, they erred on the side of high fidelity, and they nailed it pretty well.

Oh, I have no doubt that it will get better over time, but I think people forget that part of the early adopter tax is often that you look like a fucking dork. Which in my mind isn't a bad thing - it shows that you're committed to making it work. There's something noble about that, wouldn't you say?

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by youoy »

> A big bonus for watching movies in VR on a plane is the fact that you don’t need to conscious about movies that contain graphic scenes. You don’t need to turn down the brightness and rotate the screen away from children!

Ah! I was not understanding why would anyone prefer this over other less invasive or smaller options, but now I get to the real advantage! /s

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by talldayo »

MPSimmons wrote: post #52
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

I don't think it's a 1% problem, but it's a 40% problem: https://www.airlines.org/new-survey-nearly-90-percent-of-ame... 44% of Americans flew commercially in 2022.

80% of those people are flying economy class and already get along fine with earbuds and their phone. The remaining 20% that can afford something like Vision Pro almost certainly will choose not to.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by latexr »

tesch1 wrote: post #58
latexr wrote: post #33

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> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. What do you think is going to happen if, as the author predicts, “Apple Vision Pro will be on the face of every frequent flyer”? My prediction is that the experience would get even shittier. Since everyone would be tuned out, there’d be even less reason for the airline to care.

My prediction is that airlines will start offering VR headsets much like they added seatback screens.

Lovely, just what we need: cheap devices with a motion-sickness-inducing laggy passthrough, poor resolution screens (when they work at all), covered in other people’s face grease.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by DrillShopper »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #22
DrillShopper wrote: post #17

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Why do you care what a kooky murder thinks? What do you think Ted Bundy thinks about this? What do you think Charles Manson thinks? Jeff Dahmer?

Did any of them write a book on technology?

No, but I fail to see how that matters.

I don't care if he wrote the fucking Bible - he's a mass murderer and the world was better with him in Supermax.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by skhr0680 »

nordsieck wrote: post #31
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> psychologically uncomfortable

My brother in god, you can travel from any point of the Earth to any other point on the Earth in less than a week. At what point are modern people going to “deal with it”?

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