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Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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post #135

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One possible future includes one or more of: - AI guns that won't shoot at other people, only authorized in-season animals. - AI keyboards that won't let you type "hate speech" - AI browsers that only let you visit approved, legal sites. - AI smartphones that contact the police if you are breaking curfew, trespassing, recording unauthorized (copyrighted) public or audio, etc.

> - AI guns that won't shoot at other people, only authorized in-season animals. That sounds like a legitimately good idea, why would you need a gun that shoots people

Because bad people exist and there are imminent dangers? There are legitimately good uses of people shooting people all the time. Hostage situations being the painfully obvious example.

What even is this question?

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

#232
post #87

The problem with automated enforcement of laws like this, is that the laws were not written for 100% automatic enforcement. Everyone who has ever followed a car driving 5 mph below the speed limit on a two-lane road knows that it is basically impossible to ever pass them while staying under the speed limit. Legally, that's what you're supposed to do, but everyone - the police, the legislators, the courts, and drivers…

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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Literally everything causes death. The question is: will this prevent more deaths from speeding than it causes from mistaken slowdowns?

Is the category of "deaths from speeding" large enough to justify any action whatsoever? Are "deaths from speeding" typically single vehicle or multiple vehicle accidents? Why does the Autobahn still not have speed limits on large parts of the road and why does this not cause massive problems?

> Is the category of "deaths from speeding" large enough to justify any action whatsoever?

Speeding causes as many deaths in the U.S. as drunk driving does. But people like to speed, so there isn't the political will to deal with it.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Not OP, but I can hazard some guesses: * Very few people drive the speed limit, so you're now stuck at being the slowest car on the road. (This will still be a problem under this law because new vehicles are the only ones affected.) * Inaccurate/out of date speed limits. * Impossible to pass anyone on a two lane road. * Having the car take over control is very disorienting for a skilled driver who expects the machine…

The first doesn't really win any sympathy from me lol. People should drive the speed limit, and I have no sympathy for people who tell me about getting pulled over by cops

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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Not OP, but I can hazard some guesses: * Very few people drive the speed limit, so you're now stuck at being the slowest car on the road. (This will still be a problem under this law because new vehicles are the only ones affected.) * Inaccurate/out of date speed limits. * Impossible to pass anyone on a two lane road. * Having the car take over control is very disorienting for a skilled driver who expects the machine…

> Very few people drive the speed limit, so you're now stuck at being the slowest car on the road. (This will still be a problem under this law because new vehicles are the only ones affected.) This is by far the most dangerous part. When you're on a freeway where everyone is driving 80-85MPH and you are driving the speed limit of 65MPH, you are the danger to the road. Speed may make accidents deadlier, but the speed…

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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Is it "pre-crime" if it activates once you are speeding? Surely we can agree that is a crime

Is it a crime where "100% enforcement" is worth surrendering (even more) individual privacy?

Sorry, what individual privacy is being surrendered here? Note that observing the driver is in no way necessary to implement a speed limiter.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

#238
post #53

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Class B and C mopeds in NYC are speed limited and require a license and registration

Can you explain your point?

Mopeds can only operate on streets, they cant go in bikelanes or sidewalks. They are subject to the same restrictions as cars (licensure, registration) except that they uniquely have a speed limit

Not having a speed limit is unique only to private car ownership

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

#239
post #31

While it can be overridden, hopefully this saves many lives. We limit speeds on scooters and e bikes so cars are only fair

It won't stop reckless driving on roads where the legal limit is way above the practical limit. Although I have absolutely zero stats to backup my argument, I'd say deaths on twisty country roads where the vehicle was under the legal speed limit far exceeds those on straight motorways breaking the limit.

> roads where the legal limit is way above the practical limit

Can you give an example of such a road? At least in the US, I've never seen one.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

#240

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So if every car is following the speed limit, that is going as fast as they are allowed, why would any one person be passing someone else?

I often find myself behind a truck that is kicking up stones or belching fumes or has a poorly secured load that looks like it could fly off. Doesn't matter if it is going the speed limit, I want to get past it.

How close do you find yourself to the truck in front of you?

Safe follow distances are, At 65MPH, I'm assuming you're in the US, is approximately 300 feet. I'd be kind of shocked that you're getting stones hitting you and detectable fumes 300 feet away.

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