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Firefox search update

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Re: Firefox search update

#231

Welp, thanks for telling me what to turn off right now Mozilla.

Turning off telemetry has always been easy in Firefox settings. If I'm reading it correctly, the same checkbox we've all be clicking off for years now also disables this too same as always.

Re: Firefox search update

#233
Why is the web browser try to act like SNS web service? You are an user agent for SNS web service, not the SNS itself. Now be a good boy and fetch a SNS web page like a good little dog.

Re: Firefox search update

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post #129

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I constantly see this take and I'm afraid I don't agree with it. Firefox is continuing to lose market share, and I think it's less anything they're doing and due simply to the fact that Google is a household name while Mozilla is not. When the user is already using a Google phone, email, search, maps, drive, and document editor, it follows to also use their browser. Simply being a solid browser isn't enough to motiva…

I just feel like they should be concentrating their time into adding features to Firefox which Google either will not or doesn't care to add to Chrome, not trying to compete with Google's entire business suite: that's a losing uphill battle and the pitch "we're slightly more private" is a hard one that they aren't even doing well... if they want to make a commitment to 0 data storage with no suggestions or analytics,…

This is a great comment.

Firefox used to _stand_ for things that internet savvy folks cared about, and at least some of that would trickle down to make even the non-savvy user's browsing experience better.

Re: Firefox search update

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post #144

Reading just the blog post... these feel like useless metrics. Why do you care what percentage of your users are searching about animals. What do you possibly have to gain from this? Are they planning to introduce animal-based features? And if it's not for their own metrics, but to sell... who's going to buy? Facebook tracking pixels and other statistics cookies are so much more valuable that this kind of data

I suspect it is mostly for selling things like default search engine and ads via Firefox Suggest. Some search categories are far more valuable than others for ads.

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Re: Firefox search update

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post #146

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But a browser is never "done", for better or worse, nor are user expectations static. Stopping to iterate on a web browser is like stopping to iterate on an operating system: It'll go well for a while (and users even might love you for it for a year or two, since you can focus your effort on fixing bugs and not introduce new ones with new features), and then you'll slowly but steadily lose users to other browser that…

All you have to do is keep up with web standards. Most people don't use 99% of the browsers features I'd guess. About all I need are tabs and bookmarks and a history and thats it, same stuff since netscape basically, my three features for a complete browser experience that would make me very happy. I'm sure other users feel the same.

> About all I need are tabs and bookmarks and a history and thats it

I'm impressed you don't even need a HTML renderer component and all that comes with it.

Re: Firefox search update

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post #129

Seems like this is in support of "Firefox Suggest", which seems to show sponsored links. I really don't like advertising so I really don't like going down that road. Can't they just take Google's yearly $600,000,000 payment and build the best browser "for the user" while also addressing technical debt and organizational issues so it can continue as an open source project if/when the money ever dries up?

I constantly see this take and I'm afraid I don't agree with it. Firefox is continuing to lose market share, and I think it's less anything they're doing and due simply to the fact that Google is a household name while Mozilla is not. When the user is already using a Google phone, email, search, maps, drive, and document editor, it follows to also use their browser. Simply being a solid browser isn't enough to motiva…

> and I think it's less anything they're doing and due simply to the fact that Google is a household name while Mozilla is not.

Of course, changing the UI, using Google safebrowsing as default and other anti-user practices have nothing to do with it. /s

Re: Firefox search update

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post #166

Just a shortcut for anybody trying to find it. "Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide [0] on how to adjust your settings." --- 1. Click the [hamburger menu button] and select Settings. 2. Select the Privacy & Security panel. 3. Scroll down to the Firefox Data Collection and Use section. 4. Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send…

That still doesn't disable all telemetry from being sent. There's a whole slue of settings that you need to change in about:config and then there's still no guarantee. Even if you follow those steps you listed there and uncheck all those boxes you're shown in the standard settings pages, then Firefox will just continue to send out 'pings' when you interact with certain elements in the browser interface. And that's ju…

Could you tell us what other settings you need to change please?

Re: Firefox search update

#240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s possible to repackage Chromium with a couple people. It’s not possible to build a browser from the ground up with a couple people.

Using existing code is fine, that's how most software is built anyhow. Only masochists build from complete scratch. EDIT: I've been getting a lot of down votes for this stance, surprisingly. Why not share your position if you don't agree? There must be a bunch of hardcore people on here who are writing directly on the metal in machine code. Short of that, you are in fact using someone else's code in all your projects…

It's the classic "building on Chrome cedes control of what the web can do to Google". But I think most people aren't interested in rehashing that discussion here - a search for "independent browser engine" should turn up plenty of arguments if you're interested in other positions.
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