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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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>In the past, Epic has denigrated Apple’s developer terms, including the Developer Program License Agreement (DPLA), as a prelude to breaking them. >Given that pattern, Apple recently reached out directly to Mr. Sweeney to give him an opportunity to explain why Apple should trust Epic this time and allow Epic Games Sweden AB to become an active developer. Mr. Sweeney’s response to that request was wholly insufficient…

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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I've spent ~$7000 on Apple products last year. I think it'll be $0 this year and going forward. Tired of this kind of crap. (Not only this, but Apple's behavior with EU, etc.)

I ditched iphones for a Google Pixel 6 when it came out.

Ditched my macbook for a Windows 10 beast machine running linux mint in VMWare Player. Flawless.

I had _zero_ issues ditching apple. Especially since everyone I speak to uses Whatsapp anyways. This "green bubble" thing never affected me.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also not drive a car in a place where your driving can be twisted into jail time when you hurt people? Why does the concept of personal responsibility for decisions insult you so deeply?

> Do you also not drive a car in a place where your driving can be twisted into jail time when you hurt people? If you believe figurative and actual violence are identical, this analogy makes sense.

Economic violence is a form of violence - it isn't identical to physical violence... but violence can take many forms.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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post #181

Isn't Apple providing side loading for customers in Europe now? Sure, Apple is being petty, but I thought this is was what Epic asked for. Can anyone ELI5 this one?

All side loaded apps still need to go through Apple notarization. It's malicious compliance from Apple.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also not drive a car in a place where your driving can be twisted into jail time when you hurt people? Why does the concept of personal responsibility for decisions insult you so deeply?

> Do you also not drive a car in a place where your driving can be twisted into jail time when you hurt people? If you believe figurative and actual violence are identical, this analogy makes sense.

People go to jail for non-violent crimes as well.

Again, why does personal responsibility for harm to others bother you?

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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post #73

Even setting aside the dubious morality of Apple's rules on iOS, I feel like I'm going insane watching Apple be maximally aggressive. The EU loves regulating! There's nothing they love more! It seems supremely unwise to give them additional excuses to do something they clearly want to do anyways.

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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post #177

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Apple's last quarter results: $30 billion in net sales from Europe, their second largest market behind the Americas. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q1/FY24_Q1_Consol... The idea of leaving Europe is nonsense. Apple is a publicly owned corporation, and Tim Cook would be immediately dismissed for such financial recklessness.

what are their margins? an $18B fine starts to make it seem possible that it would be profitable to not sell there.

Or, you know, they could just comply with our laws...
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