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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Equivalent hardware. $500 does not buy you a Mac Air level laptop. And I am talking about power users, not the hypothetical grandma. Although grandma is ALSO better served by a Macbook.

Regarding hardware for grandma, you misspelled iPad.

+1 and it's very hard for Grandma's iPad to accrue malware, which is a welcome change.

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There's a limit to how many third parties I was willing to install to get the programs I wanted working. I also didn't read anywhere that Lutris would have helped with GOG - every reddit thread I trawled ended up saying that we need to wait for a Linux version of GOG. I tried Steam, I tried playing with a few of its options, I tried a few ways of running GOG as a steam game - decided to switch back to Windows. I do e…

All I know is Lutris is meant to handle every windows game client: GOG, Steam, Origin, and so on.

Researching a bit more, it seems that Lutris can download and perhaps run these games, but it doesn't offer other integrations. It's not clear to me whether it downloads updates automatically for them, but it certainly doesn't handle things like cloud saves (I game from multiple systems) or achievements.

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Clarified in another reply, I was referring to GOG Galaxy, the launcher that you would use to keep those games up to date, sync saves across systems etc.

Ah, OK. I've actually never heard of GoG Galaxy before, and so haven't ever used it.

It's obviously not required, but I do find it nice, especially for newer games that still receive regular patches. And of course, achievements are sometimes fun to have as well.

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All the HN MS/Google bashing when it's not clear in the article what caused the popup. Who knows what the person's got running in their systray, what gaming apps are all tied into the browser engine and triggering the popups etc.... It's not as clear cut as "MS is throwing crap at you". I've got multiple installs of Windows 11 going, which I only did minimal pref settings to eliminate default search toolbars, and not…

That’s my experience too. I run all Windows here and I stay on the happy path. I did turn off a few options in control panel to reduce some UI clutter, but nothing has been hacked away. I run Pro and use an outlook.com login to sync settings. I don’t see any of these ads or pop ups. This is mostly fud here.

I have the same setup and experience, but there's still two things that annoy me.

The setting up your device prompts where you have to skip their attempts to upsell an office 365 subscription, change the default browser, link your phone, etc, which run before you can login after every biannual feature update.

That bing/store search results appear before more relevant installed programs or files when searching the start menu. I like having them sometimes, just not the way they're ranked, and the lag which causes me to select them when it gets inserted before what I was just about to click.

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When I was in 8th grade, one of my teachers was out sick, and the principal took over the class for the day. He talked about frames of reference. To illustrate the point, he asked if we had seen the movie, E.T. Of course, we all had. It was the Star Wars-level blockbuster of the summer of 1982. He asked if we remembered the bus scene. None of us could. "You know, 'Uranus?'" Oh, right. Yes, we all remembered that line…

Thank you. This is very true, and equally sad.

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Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready. It's awesome that it can run Steam games quite seamlessly, and it can even run non-Steam games if you fiddle around a bit and find the magic incantations. But - I tried using it for things like GoG, and quickly found out that there is actually no way of running GOG on Linux, even with Proton/Wine, unless maybe if I go and install a bunch of other 3rd parties. Not to mentio…

It's called heroicgameslauncher, runs on Linux and works with GoG. https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher

I hadn't heard about this one when I was researching options. I'll give it a go next time I feel inclined to play with Linux, it sounds like it supports most of the features I'd like.

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What do they do with just a phone...? Are students just using ipads these days? I guess I'm getting (am?) old. Without a general purpose computing device in the home, my life would have been radically different.

It ultimately depends on what the student is doing I think. If you are just writing papers, doing research, taking notes. Just use an iPad. Maybe get a keyboard to attache to it. Obviously if you are going for programming thats an exception but thats not everyone. Most people that I know do the vast majority of their computing tasks on their phones. I think it's very telling that apps like Threads launched first as a…

> I think it's very telling that apps like Threads launched first as an app and the website came later.

This isn't new, Instagram itself did the same over a decade ago. It was phone-only until shortly after Facebook bought it.

But I agree with your other point, PCs (mostly laptops if you want to make that distinction) are for business use, while phones and iPads (because other tablets suck) are general purpose devices. And to take it from there: browsers are increasingly irrelevant, and videos won over text.

But I don't think laptops are going anywhere for business use, as merging them with tablets never really took off.

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Yeah I don't understand the love for WSL. Within the first couple weeks of using it, I've run into * Time doesn't stay in sync after sleeping, which breaks package updating. * It doesn't get the DNS servers it should from DHCP, so you have to go manually edit /etc/resolv.conf * The filesystem is super slow, and git commands take multiple seconds. All stuff that can be worked around, but I don't have to deal with this…

> The filesystem is super slow, and git commands take multiple seconds. Ugh, this is a known issue in WSL if you try to use git on the host operating system (/mnt/c/Users/path/to/repo)... there are cross-system file system virtualization issues in WSL2 when reading from the Windows hosts. Workaround is to have your git repos within WSL itself (~/my-git-repo) to have native performance.

All of these workarounds unfortunately adds up, and after a while it's just too much to having to deal with, when you could have just gone straight up for a Linux/Windows dual boot setup and not having to deal with any of those issues at all.

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It's called heroicgameslauncher, runs on Linux and works with GoG. https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher

I hadn't heard about this one when I was researching options. I'll give it a go next time I feel inclined to play with Linux, it sounds like it supports most of the features I'd like.

To be fair/transparent, I hadn't heard about it either until my 16 year old pointed it out a couple of months ago, LOL.

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Every time I click the play button on my keyboard, Apple Music launches and asks if I want to start a subscription. There's no (normal) way to make it so that play will launch, or even reliably play, Spotify. MacOS is covered in non-removable Apple adware like this but somehow always gets a pass. ... yes apparently I can install an app that force quits Music every time it launches, or I can modify system permissions,…

That's odd, I just tried mine and it controls VLC just fine.

If a video is already open in VLC, yes. It's a little annoying how the button will launch Music if there's nothing to play. I don't give them a pass for this, it's just still a lottt less annoying than Windows.
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