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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by xnx »

throwaway4good wrote: post #132
ekidd wrote: post #118

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I powerlifed for years, with a truly excellent coach for much of that time. For what it was worth, she was Starting Strength certified and a successful international masters competitor. She fixed a subtle problem with my deadlift using nothing but the wrinkles on my T-shirt; my recovery improved dramatically. At 40, I was stronger than I was as a high school wrestler. I loved lifting. I remember casually picking up a…

I used to do karate. There were all these character who had seemingly superhuman physical fitness yet they would die really early. I always wondered why was that? Now I believe that a lot of physical training isn't that healthy. And if you put your whole personal identity on your physical abilities then when your abilities start to decline, as they naturally do from age 40 and up, you may spiral out of control and li…

> There were all these character who had seemingly superhuman physical fitness yet they would die really early. I always wondered why was that?

Performance enhancing drugs

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by 11235813213455 »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

This looks good for power, less for endurance (like hike/bike uphill), for a computer job we also need endurance, not big muscles, so I walk, sometimes run, climb trees and rocks, (forage figs), squat for hours (static), and surely no added weight. In short I think selling your car, and using your legs daily as much as possible is what's best

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by Justsignedup »

How many people I know got hit by a car and had their life ruined horribly. Or a bad surgery. Things totally out of their control.

We need to see disability as a cost to society we must pay, not a failure of individuals which is more or less what were treating it.

The American disability system is basically proving (very painfully) that life is barely livable to get scraps of help. Like below poverty levels.

I really wish that we moved away from pain oriented policy - - how much pain are you willing to tolerate so we can get you basic assistance and into some sort of way to guarantee that people live an okay life as a default. My dream is to see this sometime in my lifetime.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by bradley13 »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

Absolutely right, although I cannot lift the amounts you list. For me, weight lifting has nothing to do with "power lifting"..

I have a weight-machine and a few barbells in my house, and use them 2-3 times a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. I am older, I have no six-pack, I am not particularly muscular. It's not about that. It's about keeping what you have, and keeping what you have reasonably fit.

Muscles support your joints. Weight training also strengthens the ligaments and tendons that hold everything together. If you do it as "circuit training" (only a few seconds between different exercises), it also serves as cardiovascular exercise. All of this is important for everyone, especially as you get older...

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by coffeebeqn »

ekidd wrote: post #186
oarfish wrote: post #136

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Your experience is surely valid, but I wouldn't just generalize this to the population at large. When you say "powerlifters", are those people who compete or just people who train? I can imagine this to make a difference. And in any case, I wouldn't take Rippetoe as an example of good scientific programming these days. It's good for getting people into lifting, but Starting Strength has a powerlifting fetish for no g…

> and the advice to aggressively gain weight is also not appropriate for everyone (GOMAD etc.). Yeah, don't do GOMAD unless you're a 17-year-old teenage boy with a BMI of 18.5 who wants to be a linebacker or something. Some of the Starting Strength advice is... very situational, to put it politely as possible. Their coaching certification, however, means more than 95% of the "personal trainer" certifications you'll s…

It’s a very interesting shift in fitness culture as you age. In my teens and twenties I was adoring people like Ronnie Coleman and thinking that’s the life. Now I see him in clips often in a wheelchair - still with a great attitude but obviously not healthy.

Seems like in your 30s you start to realize the limits and tradeoffs and by your 40s most have accepted that longevity is the main goal - if it’s not too late and they destroyed a knee or back or something else.

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Post by sk0g »

Martinussen wrote: post #218
memefrog wrote: post #201

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Far more people are hurt by not doing enough exercise than are hurt by doing too much.

We're talking about the set of people that actually weight lifting exercises, though, not the population. Someone that goes for regular long walks is better off than a powerlifter, I doubt you would consider that a convincing argument against the gym.

To put it in programming terms, you're likely to improve more with the slow grind of an hour or so an evening side-project, rather than competing in a hackathon every 3 months.

One observation I had was that people coming to the gym to spend majority of their time on the treadmill are mostly women. I'm not sure if it is to lose weight, or simply because with infrastructure hostile to walking, the likelihood of problematic encounters increases greatly. Though I wouldn't feel entirely safe walking around at 23:00 without my dog either.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by sk0g »

nkurz wrote: post #229
pyinstallwoes wrote: post #223

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What does natty mean in this context? As in like non-natural? Testosterone supplemented workouts?

"Natty" means natural, and describes those who lift without performance enhancing drugs such as steroids, although some questionable supplements might be allowed. The opposite, describing those who use such drugs, might be "enhanced".

What's the questionable supplements allowed? Herbal stuff like ashwagandha or whatever, or not-technically-steroids-but-close-enough substances like SARMs?

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by coffeebeqn »

zemvpferreira wrote: post #182
qtk8 wrote: post #181

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Do you have a good source or book (preferably) to start learning more about scientific body building?

Look up Renaissance Periodisation's stuff, they do a great job of explaining this approach.

Layne Norton is another if you want more of a natty point of view (IFBB pro). Mike is very enjoyable but I do find his advice often leans toward enhanced people and might not be the best for natties

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Post by dgellow »

sideproject wrote: post #30

I once sat on a zoom call with a vision impaired user to do some accessibility testing on our site. First, it was enlightening for me to see how she navigated through our site using her screen reader. Second when she landed on our booking page we got so embarrassed because she couldn’t use our date picker. A basic HTML version would have done the job. But a few weeks back we had debated over which fancy jquery date p…

That makes me think, how does one learn to use a screen reader? (Or alternatives for other handicaps)

It seems fairly technical and challenging to learn, but I feel it would make sense for abled engineers to practice using those.

I personally wouldn’t even know where to start, I only enabled the screen reader a few times by mistakes and have no idea how I could learn to be effective with it if I need to at some point in my life.

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