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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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How was it a pain? Ffupdater has had it available for a very long time, and there's Unobtainium that lets you update from git repo releases among other things.

> ... there's Unobtainium that lets you update from git repo releases among other things. Did you mean Obtainium? https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium

Heh, this is exactly why posting on HN is worthwhile. Probably just wait for FF now though.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

I think Firefox's addon policy is one of the reasons they lost market share. Moving from oldscool extensions to webextensions they lost their unique selling point. Firefox was the only browser that you could really theme. It's adblock existed earlier and was better than others (and is soon again due to Manifest v3?). Especially for non-tech-savvy people, who don't know what a browser is, if they need a certain featur…

Firefox lost power-users because 1) performance was bad 2) Chrome does very aggressive marketing and various Google sites break randomly on Firefox. And performance was very often bad because of extensions.

Perhaps anecdotal, but whenever I ask a Chrome user why they don't use Firefox, that's the main two reasons they cite. I do ask often though.

What "certain features" do non-tech-savvy people need? I know lots of devs who rarely even know or care which browser they're using. Not to mention non-tech-savvy people..

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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You can change the tabs and address bar positions (independently) in the Samsung Internet settings. You can also choose to display them always, on scroll, or never (for the tabs).

Same for Firefox on Android

Firefox on Android has no tabs.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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This is a big surprise and a welcome one. I honestly had given up hope of this happening. It's disappointing that it took this long, but it is a big deal to have full extension support on Android again. I'm very happy to see this news.

In case you didn't know, you can have full extension support on Android with Kiwi Browser, which is based on Chromium.

I do know, but

> which is based on Chromium.

unfortunately that's a dealbreaker for me.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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I have never run into this. What websites are you referring to?

In $LAST_JOB we used an ancient CI tool called Electric Commander. I don't know if it was us or them, but it didn't work in FF. We currently use playfab in work, and the admin panel is missing a few features on Firefox compared to chrome. Google Meets has been doing some nonsense over the last few weeks on FF causing it to break for our team (and pushed us back to slack huddles). My bank's search functionality doesn'…

I'm not talking about having to switch to Chrome in general—I see that sometimes. I mean a website that requires a particular extension that is Chrome-only.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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post #232

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I think Firefox's addon policy is one of the reasons they lost market share. Moving from oldscool extensions to webextensions they lost their unique selling point. Firefox was the only browser that you could really theme. It's adblock existed earlier and was better than others (and is soon again due to Manifest v3?). Especially for non-tech-savvy people, who don't know what a browser is, if they need a certain featur…

Firefox lost power-users because 1) performance was bad 2) Chrome does very aggressive marketing and various Google sites break randomly on Firefox. And performance was very often bad because of extensions. Perhaps anecdotal, but whenever I ask a Chrome user why they don't use Firefox, that's the main two reasons they cite. I do ask often though. What "certain features" do non-tech-savvy people need? I know lots of d…

Firefox randomly broke all my extensions and workflows one day in the pursuit of some obscure technical goal, via forced update that I couldn’t roll back. I asked about it, and they banned me from their subreddit, so I deleted that stupid browser and never went back

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

#237
I love this.

It has been possible to use extensions on Android, but keeping them loaded on Android after OOM reclamation has been a pain up until now.

I wrote up a hack where I push Android Firefox extensions over Wireguard and OCR.

https://blog.plzat.me/2023-05-23-android-in-wireguardland-pu...

Hopefully this is the end of the need for this kind of hack. I love Firefox on all my platforms and having extensions on Android makes it even better.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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post #47

This is a big surprise and a welcome one. I honestly had given up hope of this happening. It's disappointing that it took this long, but it is a big deal to have full extension support on Android again. I'm very happy to see this news.

In case you didn't know, you can have full extension support on Android with Kiwi Browser, which is based on Chromium.

Not all Chrome Extensions work on it. It has issues.. Having a native browser supporting the desktop extensions on the mobile is much needed.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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kiwi =/= chrome

That's why I find it funny firefox is saying "only major browser" as if it's some club. Users who do not keep themselves in pens have had extensions in mobile browsers for years now. Firefox brings nothing distinguishing with this announcement, I don't have to use a "major browser".

Also

  Firefox accounts for 0.48% of the mobile browser market share
I wonder what is the cut off for being a major

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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This is a big surprise and a welcome one. I honestly had given up hope of this happening. It's disappointing that it took this long, but it is a big deal to have full extension support on Android again. I'm very happy to see this news.

Curious, why didn't you try Iceraven this whole time?

Good question. Browser forks make me nervous -- I know Iceraven pulls fixes, but I'd rather have as short a chain as possible sitting between me and security fixes.

If uBlock Origin wasn't supported I would be on Iceraven, but I don't run a ton of extensions so I was willing to tolerate some inconvenience in order to be closer to the source.

The other thing is that Iceraven isn't a silver bullet, you can install any extension but if it's relying on an API that's not implemented yet it will break. Which is totally not their fault, but it gets back to -- Mozilla needs to actually implement full extension support beyond just flipping a switch on.

I'm glad Iceraven exists though :) I wouldn't not recommend them to someone who needs more extension support, it's just not right for my personal use case.

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