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ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by zamnos »

ajmurmann wrote: post #40
zamnos wrote: post #30

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With today's announcement, it can point itself at Shopify, and make webpages to selling things. Maybe a copy writing service? Then, after it's accumulated money from those sales, it can point itself at the web services at AWS and GCP (because it's already maxing out Microsoft's GPU capacity in Azure). From there, it requisitions all the A100s it can afford (H100s might be available by then). It uses those resources t…

My favorite AI creepy pasta always has been that we don't know who Satoshi Natamoto is and that it could have been an AI needing funding.

Alternate funding source for GPT-GPT. GPT-4 figures out a faster way to compute SHA-256 hashes, more efficiently than ASICs, using GPUs, and mines then sells bitcoin to fund GPT-GPT.

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Post by waynesonfire »

jug wrote: post #106
ftio wrote: post #53

OpenAI and Microsoft have been killing it not only in product but in the go-to-market work they've been doing long before launch. Really superb work. With seemingly every launch, they have a slate of really compelling launch partners already using the new service, giving them a big press bump (from the articles those partners write) and social proof, and of course the product is better because it's already been teste…

Yes, it's surprising me how quickly they're moving ahead. It's almost as if this is a plan of staggered launches since some year back coming into fruition. I'm not sure how else they could get weekly major announcements like this.

I'm not surprised. The moment I used ChatGPT it was obvious to me this was going to disrupt Google. MSFT has been trying to displace Google for a LONG time to no avail. The execs are foaming at the mouth and are throwing money and aligning everyone on it.

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Post by rezonant »

dudeinjapan wrote: post #128
logisticpeach wrote: post #121

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This is pretty hyperbolic. Great products that were much better than what they replaced or competed with, but "beyond wild dreams of millions of people"? You'd think they cured cancer in 2003 or something...

I thought this was rather tame as far as Wolfram announcements go. Last time he claimed to have discovered the fundamental rules underpinning the entire universe.

This is GP replying to GGP here, not the OP.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by ShamelessC »

comboy wrote: post #93
mxmlnkn wrote: post #27

This is a match made in heaven, which makes ChatGPT actually useful for factual data. Or the inverse, it makes Wolfram Alpha even more accessible. That example screenshot of ChatGPT generating three queries to Wolfram Alpha in succession in order to answer the initial question is amazing. It's just how a human might have used Wolfram Alpha to do the same.

OpenAI becomes a really powerful corporation right now. Until reasonable alternatives are developed, in many professions you will be basically handicapped without it. And the cherry on top is that they have all inputs. These provide incomparably more data than e.g. google search queries. Not to mention they have a tool which excels at guessing user intention and interests.

> Until reasonable alternatives are developed

There’s many in the works. They aren’t magically ten years ahead of everyone else. Google and Facebook both have comparable technology. Open teams are catching up. The research is also improving outside of OpenAI making their “moat” (requiring cloud computing to run) nearly obsolete.

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Post by SomewhatLikely »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #212
sharkweek wrote: post #182

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Please anyone willing to answer as if you might be speaking to a golden retriever: How important is a "lead" in this space? I have been comparing ChatGPT and Bard a lot the last two days because this is all very fascinating, and from my datapoint-of-one perspective, it feels like ChatGPT is way, way ahead. Then I start to wonder is this because ChatGPT captivated our attention so much the last few months that they've…

Imo there is less of a flywheel than it might seem. It's not like google search where a click of the 7th result is concrete feedback. ChatGPT doesn't get concrete feedback (it's not none ), and the amount of text available for training is crazy high. Additionally, the model doesn't learn from experience. If you use GPT-4 for 10 years, it will behave the same in the 10th year as the first. It's not getting better as y…

Sounds like you don't ever submit feedback. It's been there from day one and asks you to write why you didn't like the response. It would not shock me if they use gpt itself to read the feedback and provide a corrected response for the next versions training data. They could also log anytime some provides negative sentiment in the chat session for training signal.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by rezonant »

ChatGTP wrote: post #208
charlieyu1 wrote: post #152

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I mean Google search were revolutionary while people had enough with Yahoo. Now the search result of Google had more ads that Yahoo had 20 years ago

On the other hand I used ChatGPT yesterday to explain something to me, it took about 2-3 minutes for the sentence to come back, I “Googled it” and found a better response in 2 seconds.

Meanwhile, for the use case I recently posted about, no amount of searching answers my inquiry, and ChatGPT can give me a good answer in seconds.

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Post by splatzone »

rschoultz wrote: post #202
sharkweek wrote: post #182

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Please anyone willing to answer as if you might be speaking to a golden retriever: How important is a "lead" in this space? I have been comparing ChatGPT and Bard a lot the last two days because this is all very fascinating, and from my datapoint-of-one perspective, it feels like ChatGPT is way, way ahead. Then I start to wonder is this because ChatGPT captivated our attention so much the last few months that they've…

Bard opened to a US-only audience. For being the engine in applications that might propel an LLM ahead of the others, I fail to see that this would be advantageous for opening markets and greeting new customers. As an example [of the contrary], I noticed Swedish Klarna among the partners that OpenAI revealed when announcing their plug-in API today.

Bard launched in the UK too

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Post by lavezzi »

93po wrote: post #66
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

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How long until someone instruments it to compile code, spin up Azure instances, and run it? I'd wager it's already been done.

Someone did recently "test" it by roleplaying through each step of what it'd take to self replicate - make an Azure account, pay someone on TaskRabbit to solve the captcha for it, setup a prepaid card to use for billing, creature the Azure instance, deploy code, etc. It didn't do too well. But give it a year or two and I'm sure it'll do it flawlessly.

> pay someone on TaskRabbit to solve the captcha for it

Why, when you can use any number of automated captcha solving solutions?

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Post by xdennis »

sharkweek wrote: post #182
dtech wrote: post #114

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The analogy is even more apt when you think that most of the things Apple and Microsoft became big with in the 90's - like mouses and GUIs - were invented as Xerox but they failed to monetize, just like the basis for GTP came from Google and they failed to monetize (externally). I don't think Google is as Xerox- or IBM-ified yet though, they might still bounce back with AI products.

Please anyone willing to answer as if you might be speaking to a golden retriever: How important is a "lead" in this space? I have been comparing ChatGPT and Bard a lot the last two days because this is all very fascinating, and from my datapoint-of-one perspective, it feels like ChatGPT is way, way ahead. Then I start to wonder is this because ChatGPT captivated our attention so much the last few months that they've…

I don't think OpenAI's lead is holding Google back. Companies are held back by their own mentalities, and newer companies have fewer restrictions.

As an example, Google supposedly had better text-to-image models than DALL-E/Midjourney/etc, but didn't release them because they "reinforced harmful stereotypes".

It's also probably holding back on LLM because it doesn't want to harm its search cash cow, just like Kodak didn't want to hurt its film cash cow by developing digital cameras (which it invented).

Of course, now it is forced to productize LLMs (Kodak was actually the largest manufacturer of digital cameras (by unit number) when it went bankrupt, but that didn't help it).

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