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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by CameronNemo »

kristopolous wrote: post #227
b112 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish someone would EV a convertible, a glass roof is nice, but a convertible cannot be heavier that all that glass.

What I really want is the Wuling Hong Guang Mini EV Cabrio in the US. Here's some pictures, that thing is so cute https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/09/gms-wuling-mini-ev-cabr... I'd especially love it as a vacation rental. A Hawaiian trip with that thing would be great.

Do you have a picture of it next to an F150? That might be why they don't allow cars that small, though the Feds would never admit it.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by izacus »

askvictor wrote: post #184
Izikiel43 wrote: post #110

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Mazda? They don’t even have touchscreens

On the mazda 6 at least, there's a touchscreen for the native nav/media/etc software, but the touchscreen is disabled if you use Android Auto and are forced to use the dial interface. Go figure.

The newer models skipped on touchscreen entirely though.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by jfghi »

gffrd wrote: post #201
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

Is there some improved BT technology out there? I’ve seldom seen it go more than 20 ft or through a substantial wall.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by charles_f »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #209
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

My Mazda CX-5 has buttons for A/C control but I'm still annoyed because my '99 Civic had knobs which are infinitely better. One for temp, one for fan. That's all I need. Don't want no stinking buttons for fan intensity in a row of 100 other buttons.

My old cx-5 has knobs, I love them, but the rest of the system sucks (notably, if you allow the car to download your contacts it will take several minutes at each start to allow you to play audio)

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by izacus »

ladberg wrote: post #199
mavu wrote: post #4

I bought a Peugeot over a VW because it has actual physical buttons. Keep pushing touch controls, I keep not buying your shit.

Which VW? Except for the ID4, all recent models I've driven have physical buttons for everything I'd need to touch while driving.

I don't think it's fair to call the capacitive touch panels they've put in all new models "buttons".

Especially with those crappy tiny touch areas.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by vishnugupta »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

> it will automatically connect to my phone in the house and start playing whatever was last playing

If it's an iPhone you could use automations (Shortcuts app which is preinstalled) to auto-pause music whenever it connects to bluetooth and launches CarPlay. I have done it and works like charm.

https://www.guidingtech.com/how-to-stop-music-from-automatic...

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by j16sdiz »

> Lee hinted that while this is a priority for Hyundai today, things may change in future. In particular, the company will likely look at using touch controls more heavily when autonomous driving becomes mainstream. “When it comes to Level 4 autonomous driving, then we’ll have everything soft key," said Lee.

Hell, no. When it comes to level 4 autonomous driving, I want a hardware one key override, not everything soft key.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by dimgl »

gorjusborg wrote: post #15

I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.

I have a Genesis G70 2021. It is fantastic; best car I've ever owned. I don't see myself buying anything other than Genesis, if my budget permits. So many awesome features and almost all of them are controlled by dials. I absolutely love it.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by modeless »

kristopolous wrote: post #219
gffrd wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

Is this not a thing? My phone has the option to disable phone calls but leave audio enabled. Also my car now asks before transferring a call in progress from the phone to the car instead of doing it automatically when it's in range.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by thaumasiotes »

jfghi wrote: post #233
gffrd wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

Is there some improved BT technology out there? I’ve seldom seen it go more than 20 ft or through a substantial wall.

Wikipedia says this about Bluetooth:

> In the most widely used mode, transmission power is limited to 2.5 milliwatts, giving it a very short range of up to 10 metres (33 ft).

But that's not really how radiation works. You can transmit more by using more power, sure. The louder you shout, the easier it is for people to hear you.

You can also receive more by having a bigger antenna. The harder you listen, the more you can hear, regardless of limits on source volume.

So the easiest way to explain this would be to guess that the cars are using bigger Bluetooth antennae than usual.

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