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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by Ataraxic »

mikeyouse wrote: post #98
Ataraxic wrote: post #90

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I am personally completely unable to understand the decision to remove the ability for me to search a youtuber's videos. I didn't even know this was something a video website could take away!

Is that specific to the app? I still see the video search inside the web UI for each creator's page.

hmm I'm going to admit my mistake here.

It does exist but it's hidden in the tabs. My m1 mac screen is not large enough to show the search icon which I must click on the right chevron icon to see as it's on the far right.

I'm glad it's there but it wasn't always like this. I wonder if I'm just an idiot (totally possible), a dark pattern, or just a bad UI change.

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Post by atlgator »

voydik wrote: post #216
Workaccount2 wrote: post #198

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The main criticism I see with YouTube is that it has too many ads, and the idea of paying for youtube is laughable. Basically, it's users are very entitled. Edit: I have had premium since day 1, I'm speaking about others.

Paying for YouTube Premium has been the best $15/month I've ever spent. What's laughable is not paying for it. It's a good model that works.

You can save $3/mo by canceling your subscription through Apple and subscribing directly through the YouTube’s website ($11.99). Avoids the Apple tax.

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Post by 411111111111111 »

seydor wrote: post #209
ren_engineer wrote: post #165

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YT search is dogshit now, rather than just returning results for the keyword you want they mix in random videos you've watched before and "suggested" videos that have no relation to the search and the lack of likes/dislikes makes it harder to determine quality, which is probably some dark pattern to try and drive more engagement by forcing people to watch multiple videos. Dark patterns work short term, long term they…

It's also not SHORTS really trying SHORTS to mix its content nicely SHORTS because i seem to find its recommendations boring SHORTS and often can't find videos that SHORTS i know should be there. Maybe SHORTS i should be using bing search to find youtube videos. Yandex also has a nice video search

And if you start browsing shorts you're bound to get the same <9 creators ad nauseam with duplicates mixed in all the time. It's a terrible experience, honestly.

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Post by justapassenger »

mdgrech23 wrote: post #185
progbits wrote: post #177

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Why does everything have to keep innovating? Youtube was fine years ago. People make stuff, I subscribe and watch it. Sure throw in some algorithmic discovery on the side. Bring back dislike count. Other than that I don't care for any innovation. Just keep the lights on.

yea I'm a daily users of YT. Pay for premium. Don't produce. Only consume. Probably their ideal customer and I think the app is great. No idea what people are bitching about.

I'm in the same boat (as a user - paying for premium and consuming a lot of videos). I think app is pretty good, but search is horrible. Their recommendations in the feed are top notch, so I always have something interesting to watch. But searching for new topics returns garbage.

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Post by c3534l »

neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

Downvotes are hidden now. I'm not sure they actually have enough information to determine video quality anymore. Its all about gaming the algorithm's "engagement" metrics. No one cares if you enjoyed yourself any longer.

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Post by bastardoperator »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #198
mdgrech23 wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yea I'm a daily users of YT. Pay for premium. Don't produce. Only consume. Probably their ideal customer and I think the app is great. No idea what people are bitching about.

The main criticism I see with YouTube is that it has too many ads, and the idea of paying for youtube is laughable. Basically, it's users are very entitled. Edit: I have had premium since day 1, I'm speaking about others.

I'm happy to part ways with a couple of bucks for an ad free experience. I use youtube everyday. Entitlement is thinking you should have a certain premium experience on someone else's dime (you).

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Post by theGnuMe »

neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

By all metrics except TikTok YouTube is the 900 pound gorilla eating streaming.

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Post by gardenhedge »

xnx wrote: post #217
tasubotadas wrote: post #86

That crazy push for 10min and longer videos was a sole reason why tiktok happened. I still remember that there used to be short and super informative videos before but now everything is so stretched out with low info density

This is exactly right. Youtube has been trying so hard to turn itself into a tv network. Tiktok (for now) is a classic disrupter and has had tremendous success by making something great that people liked. Vine is the more embarassing failure, but YouTube is a close second. For those who dismis tiktok without even trying it, it is hard to convey how fun, interesting, and surprising it can be.

Does TikTok make a profit though?

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Post by justapassenger »

voydik wrote: post #216
Workaccount2 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main criticism I see with YouTube is that it has too many ads, and the idea of paying for youtube is laughable. Basically, it's users are very entitled. Edit: I have had premium since day 1, I'm speaking about others.

Paying for YouTube Premium has been the best $15/month I've ever spent. What's laughable is not paying for it. It's a good model that works.

Seriously, if you spend any meaningful time on it, premium is amazing deal. Variety of the content is unbeatable.

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Post by ris58h »

pradn wrote: post #202

Positives: * Presided over a vast increase in revenue, from $4 to $29 billion * Steered the ship through a number of content controversies * Anecdotally, the brand value of YouTube remains good * YouTube Premium seems to have good uptake * Presided over enormous cost savings with custom encoder hardware * Few major technical outages, good streaming performance generally * Relationships with advertisers and content cr…

> Overall low user experience

I literally have to wait for 5 seconds for 3 dot menus under videos to load on the main page. It's ridiculous.

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