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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#211

I was big time addicted to youtube for a while starting around 2010, mostly bc the recommended videos were so good and content that was uploaded was more raw and silly then now. But at some point the recommendations got really bad, so much so that it made it a lot less enjoyable. I miss those days.

Same here, it's really hard to get "lost" in YouTube nowadays

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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post #69

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Agreed. I am a massive fan of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music. While I am a bit nervous because major change like this could lead to those products getting worse, I'm also hopeful that it could lead to them getting better! So in general I'm just eager to see what happens next, come what may.

can you sell it to a current spotify user?

Works like shit. No support for basic features such as crossfade. Recommendations are repetitive, uninsightful and low-quality. No desktop app, and the web app is as bug-complete as any other alphabet property. Enjoy losing access to your playlist and album collection when your google account gets randomly banned.

Not a spotify fan either, but there's practically no upside to switching.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#214

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

I subscribed to YT premium when it was bundled with YT music. I hate that there is not a plan in the US that allows me to just get ad free YT videos. I do not use YT music and don't care to. I hope whoever takes it over creates an ad free plan that doesn't bundle music into it. I hate that all of these tech companies are taking the cable route they all rallied agains and bundling everything.

I don't have Premium, but I do have Music; it's an excellent service for obscure stuff, because everything ends up on YT.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#215

YouTube for the things I enjoy has improved dramatically because the comment section is vastly improved. Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it. I've seen the recommendations get better then worse then better again as they tweaked the algorithms. Right now it's better than it's ever been. Again, for me. One complaint: I like to upload interesting clip…

> Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it.

What do you like about it? Ever since they made comments a signal for discovery and openly communicated that, every creator and their dog will include call to actions to get viewers to comment some mindless nonsense, and users will happily oblige ("for the algorithm"). At least half the comments I see are completely useless.

Then there's the censorship issue where they hide comments but do not adjust the count, so it'll say "2 replies", but none will show up because they're hidden.

And last but not least ... it's has no useful nesting, just top comment and then everything else below it. With large audiences come hundreds or thousands of comments. Yet there's no structure. And you can't search in comments.

So I'm really surprised that you think they've been improved much and are on a good level. What exactly do you like about them?

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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yea I'm a daily users of YT. Pay for premium. Don't produce. Only consume. Probably their ideal customer and I think the app is great. No idea what people are bitching about.

The main criticism I see with YouTube is that it has too many ads, and the idea of paying for youtube is laughable. Basically, it's users are very entitled. Edit: I have had premium since day 1, I'm speaking about others.

Paying for YouTube Premium has been the best $15/month I've ever spent. What's laughable is not paying for it. It's a good model that works.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#217

That crazy push for 10min and longer videos was a sole reason why tiktok happened. I still remember that there used to be short and super informative videos before but now everything is so stretched out with low info density

This is exactly right. Youtube has been trying so hard to turn itself into a tv network. Tiktok (for now) is a classic disrupter and has had tremendous success by making something great that people liked. Vine is the more embarassing failure, but YouTube is a close second. For those who dismis tiktok without even trying it, it is hard to convey how fun, interesting, and surprising it can be.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#218
post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

Why does everything have to keep innovating? Youtube was fine years ago. People make stuff, I subscribe and watch it. Sure throw in some algorithmic discovery on the side. Bring back dislike count. Other than that I don't care for any innovation. Just keep the lights on.

> Bring back dislike count.

Not to mention "sort by oldest first".

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#220
post #118

She quite literally got this far because of family. Geez I wonder why Youtube remains one of the most underperforming media assets. Edit: SV is full of nepotism.

How do you figure? She worked for Google for nearly 15 years before becoming the CEO of YT. If anything it sounds like she was peter principled.
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