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Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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All substance and no style can work, as your examples prove. But it's also possible to find examples of successful movies which were all style, no substance. For instance the first Avatar (I haven't seen the recent sequel.)

Yeah, well, I saw the first Avatar, too. It was completely boring. Didn't bother with the sequel.

Tbh I agree, but it was certainly a commercial success.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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They don't even list all their old content. For example the old Donald duck cartoons, there seem to only be about 15 or so streaming. The rest are not available. Why?

I don't know about Donald Duck cartoons in particular, but I think a lot of those old cartoons are difficult to find because they contain content that the corporation fears might offend somebody. Racist (or arguably so) ethnic caricatures, extreme cartoon violence, that sort of thing. For instance, the original version of Disney's The Three Little Pigs has the wolf disguising himself as a stereotypical Jewish merchan…

So, pay someone with good sensitivities to watch the cartoons and decide based on notes. How expensive can that be ?

Or, integrate a feedback system and take down complained-about cartoons quickly. That's probably better since sensitivities change and some perfectly fine items today might be off-limits tomorrow.

Doing nothing is not a great option, even if it's the easiest to implement.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Most of us weren't Netflix customers yet at the time this was going on. Whatever the case I was an active in-store Blockbuster customer at the time their stuff started to launch and I never had an inkling they were doing anything online. It was only a couple years later I remember trying the Netflix DVDs in the mail service. I don't remember actually subscribing till I moved into my current house in 2010. When we mov…

> I was an active in-store Blockbuster customer at the time their stuff started to launch and I never had an inkling they were doing anything online. In a comment in this thread, jonfw mentioned that Blockbuster was a franchise business, which I hadn't known. That would explain why the physical shops wouldn't advertise an online alternative -- it would have been a direct competitor.

This is explained the first time Blockbuster's streaming service is mentioned in the article, in the third paragraph, but perhaps could've been more explicit:

> Blockbuster Online, an entity that was completely separate from Blockbuster’s retail business for reasons of both technology and culture: Blockbuster’s stores were not even connected to the Internet, and store managers and franchisees hated having an online service cannibalize their sales.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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I don't know about Donald Duck cartoons in particular, but I think a lot of those old cartoons are difficult to find because they contain content that the corporation fears might offend somebody. Racist (or arguably so) ethnic caricatures, extreme cartoon violence, that sort of thing. For instance, the original version of Disney's The Three Little Pigs has the wolf disguising himself as a stereotypical Jewish merchan…

So, pay someone with good sensitivities to watch the cartoons and decide based on notes. How expensive can that be ? Or, integrate a feedback system and take down complained-about cartoons quickly. That's probably better since sensitivities change and some perfectly fine items today might be off-limits tomorrow. Doing nothing is not a great option, even if it's the easiest to implement.

> So, pay someone with good sensitivities to watch the cartoons and decide based on notes.

Maybe they did, and that's why the cartoons aren't available? If you have to cut X% of a show for content, maybe they make the call to cut the show entirely and pretend it doesn't exist, just so they don't have to answer awkward questions about why so much of the show is missing.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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That’s not entirely true. Disney+ is partially losing money because of “transfer payments”. Disney+ has to “pay” Disney studios the market rate for the right to stream a movie. Of course the money mostly flows up to Disney. But from an accounting standpoint, Disney+ can’t say it’s profitable by getting movies for free from Disney studios and cause Disney studios to lose potential profits they could have made elsewher…

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Wonderpets maybe also (not on Netflix right now, but it used to be). And TimmyTime. And Adventure Time.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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I'm gonna attempt to break this down: - Netflix has 5-6 Billion USD free cash flow, and because they got what debt they do have under favorable terms, they are positioned to retain most of that free cash flow - Disney, Comcast (Peacock), CBS/Viacom and other media corporations are saddled with debt, and are all losing money on their own independent streaming businesses. Likely untenable in their shareholder model - T…

I don't understand why every single company needs to maintain their own. And there's more than what's listed of course, Paramount, Hulu, and whatever that new one is with Lifetime. It seems like at some point they'd rally behind whoever has the best interface and willing to accept deals - probably Hulu. Just charge for access to the content and forget about doing your own CDN and app dealings?

I don't think the media companies are capable of cooperating on a platform like that.

You mention Hulu which I think is a great example of that model failing. Hulu was originally a intended to be that kind of platform, and has at times included investment from ABC, NBC, FOX, and Time Warner. Now Disney owns a majority share in it and it's a brand under Disney's streaming services, and I think would like to just fold it into Disney+, but they'd need to make some sort of deal with Comcast for their minority share.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Is it just me or Disney+ does not have as engaging and comprehensive content as Netflix? I feel it's so easy to run out of the existing catalog on Disney+, and boy the newly added are single-dimension: superhero this and Star Wars that, plus a few great animations. I understand that there are other content. It's just that they seemed so so that I don't even remember which ones I watched. On the other hand, on Netflix one can find shows of different genres, many of which are binge-worthy. One can also find rotating old catalogs, many of which are worth rewatching.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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What I don't understand is how e.g. Disney+ is losing so much money. It's Disney's content, has an enormous userbase, and somehow is bleeding billions?

> It’s Disney’s content That is partly the problem. You spend hundreds of millions to make blockbuster movies and then release it on Disney+ in a few months for free (or sometimes directly). That costs money. Add to that over reliance on only Disney content creates two problems: 1. You can’t have enough new content every month, subscribers therefore don’t keep the subscription year round. 2. You have to pay money to…

Actually I’m personally ok with 1-2 really good series (e.g. Andor) a year. I think the yearly price tag is reasonable for that.

I have to admit though that the rest of the year is used up by the kids watching cartoons on D+

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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post #66

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That’s not entirely true. Disney+ is partially losing money because of “transfer payments”. Disney+ has to “pay” Disney studios the market rate for the right to stream a movie. Of course the money mostly flows up to Disney. But from an accounting standpoint, Disney+ can’t say it’s profitable by getting movies for free from Disney studios and cause Disney studios to lose potential profits they could have made elsewher…

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Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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TBH this more or less describes the problem at least for me. I'm like 3 Star Wars series behind. Catching up at this point feels more like a chore than entertainment. Forget Marvel.

> I'm like 3 Star Wars series behind. Catching up at this point feels more like a chore than entertainment. Here let me get you caught up. Blue laser sword is good, red laser sword is bad.

Is green laser sword ecofriendly and organic?
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