This is not so hard to believe as the OG ipod was to help boost sales of Macbooks, which were plummeting in sales. A lot of "fashion" apple devices are generally limited to using iPhones like Apple Watch and Airpods. It doesn't really make sense to buy those unless you use an iPhone already. Ran into this problem with me wife who uses a Samsung. I wanted to use watch walkietalkie so i just had to let her use my old iPhone to get it working. Sadly the walkietalkie feature is just trash.
Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device
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Yes they are standard Bluetooth devices and can pair normally. On Apple devices they get more features. I’ve used AirPods with my Sony PS Vita (made before AirPods) and my Nintendo switch (once they added Bluetooth headset support recently)
How well do they work / support bluetooth standards compared to other brands bluetooth headphones? I'd like to get these for a family member who wants new wireless earbuds, but not if it's as sub-par experience vs buying another brand for Android users
They are sub-par if they aren't embracing the ecosystem. You can't use most of the features, and the lack of multipoint Bluetooth becomes painfully apparent. Also, you tend to get broader codec support with Android-targeted headphones/earbuds.
Consider Beats if you want better cross-platform support while maintaining the same audio characteristics.
Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes they are standard Bluetooth devices and can pair normally. On Apple devices they get more features. I’ve used AirPods with my Sony PS Vita (made before AirPods) and my Nintendo switch (once they added Bluetooth headset support recently)
How well do they work / support bluetooth standards compared to other brands bluetooth headphones? I'd like to get these for a family member who wants new wireless earbuds, but not if it's as sub-par experience vs buying another brand for Android users
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#234Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…
They're doing the same with Mac and iPad - by denying some software on each platform, they're forcing you to buy both if you want both classes of software.
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I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…
This almost reads like a parody of Apple fanboy logic. Allow me to summarize your comment: "Well, ACKCHTUALLY, on the iPad, it's called iPadOS. Checkmate, all your points are therefore invalid, Apple can do no wrong"
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like this mandatory tie between the two Apple product lines any more than you do, but as an FYI nit on terminology: > somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. [...] Got the newest iPad? iOS 12 was the last version of iOS where that name applied to iPad as well as iPhone. Starting with version 13, the version of the operating system for iPhone had been the only one called iOS, with the iPad OS cal…
This almost reads like a parody of Apple fanboy logic. Allow me to summarize your comment: "Well, ACKCHTUALLY, on the iPad, it's called iPadOS. Checkmate, all your points are therefore invalid, Apple can do no wrong"
They said it was a nitpick and your tone is really unnecessary. Please think about what kind of conversations you want to have here.
Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device
#237Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…
I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that. There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't und…
Hm, some context here is that Apple Watch apps were — until recently — actually iPhone apps. The iPhone app was treated kind of like if you wanted to make a widget for your app, except it appeared on your wrist rather than your springboard. The whole app architecture really tightly coupled the products.
This has started to change with “set up for family” watches (which is mostly so you can give a kid a watch and no phone) but there are still lots of weird edge cases there.
I do personally wish they were standalone. If they were I would have gifted one to my father in law this Christmas. Instead he got a Garmin.
Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device
#238Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…
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#239Bonus points for Apple Support chiming in - to address an unrelated issue that another commenter casually mentioned. About the original problem? Not a single word. At least they are sending a clear message... https://twitter.com/AppleSupport/status/1615094275334619136
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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device
#240Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…
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