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Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> What other term would you use then? An argument? Crypto is facing a crisis moment. An "exchange" which has never been audited and won't say where it is, legally or physically, has halted redemptions. That prompts legitimate questions as to their liquidity. Dismissing any criticism as FUD short circuits asking why we should believe their liquidity is adequate.

> has halted redemptions. Temporarily, which is something that happens, for better or worse, all of the time with CEX, for a myriad of reasons. It doesn't always mean that it is because of insolvency, which is what my FUD comment revolves around. > Dismissing any criticism as FUD That isn't what I was doing, at all.

That is what the word FUD does. It equivocates every kind of criticism and then minimizes them. That is why I do not trust the use of the word. It is a calling card for rhetorical dishonesty.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

Yes, it's digital already. However banks manage the whole system and they can do whatever they want with your money if you are nobody. I have been waiting for 2 and a half months for an international payment via SWIFT, I worked long hours for that money and I needed it urgently. The money left the sender's account 2 and a half months ago. Neither of us has the money in our accounts while the bank tells us to just wai…

Couldn't the transfer from Binance to your bank account take two months as well in principle?

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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It’s not really any less of a dollar than any other dollar is. All of our digital dollars are just bank liabilities. Circle and Tether are just banks with dollar liabilities. Their liabilities can be transferred on crypto networks rather than traditional bank wires.

It is less of a dollar, because I can say you can exchange it for a dollar when you can not, in fact, exchange it for a dollar when you try to,because I never had enough(or any) dollars. In the real world when the bank runs out of dollars the government will give me dollars instead.

For US citizens perhaps, but if you're a Russian citizen or company, the USD in your bank account is now just a worthless database entry.

Just because that weapon hasn't been pointed at some group of US citizens yet doesn't mean it can't in the future.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

I'm really shocked more aren't talking about how binance 'failed' an audit for proof of reserves.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

#235

> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

yes, of course the goal is to avoid US dollar, and no not all stable coins are fractional reserve systems

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

#236

> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

> I'm frankly amazed that people with the ability to understand this alphabet soup mumbo jumbo keep falling for the same scam over and over again.

You can't cheat an honest man, but it's easy to scam people who think that they've found a loophole.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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This is akin to asking why commodity futures exist. It's an abstraction that provides utility. In the case of commodity futures, it allows commodities to be traded on an exchange where bags of onion seeds would otherwise be difficult to trade. In the case of USDC it allows USD to exist on the blockchain so that it can interact with smart contracts. Believe it or not, if you want to invest in gold, the only option isn…

The question is, what utility? Thanks for the usual collection of talking points from 2017 that nobody uses in the real world. There is no utility to these blockchain tokens except to scam others.

he already specified it in is his comment: > In the case of USDC it allows USD to exist on the blockchain so that it can interact with smart contracts.

if you wanna question whether smart contracts are useful or not feel free, I sure do, but drop the smarminess when the answer to your question lies within the first paragraph.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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It is less of a dollar, because I can say you can exchange it for a dollar when you can not, in fact, exchange it for a dollar when you try to,because I never had enough(or any) dollars. In the real world when the bank runs out of dollars the government will give me dollars instead.

For US citizens perhaps, but if you're a Russian citizen or company, the USD in your bank account is now just a worthless database entry. Just because that weapon hasn't been pointed at some group of US citizens yet doesn't mean it can't in the future.

Maybe, maybe not. In the meanwhile SBF and similar figures are happy to protect your money in crypto assets.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> Crypto != Bitcoin Please explain your reasoning.

I'm not the parent poster, but I believe the explanation is: 1. "Crypto" as a space includes a lot of things like Centralized Exchanges, which are really just like unregulated banks. 2. "Bitcoin" the network is a subset of the crypto space and was not in any way impacted by whatever the latest scammy CEX decides to do.

Thanks!

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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Because it's a nonsensical word that was only used by people to wave away obvious and legitimate criticisms. You don't see analysts reports in finance being called FUD, even when they are critical. That's because in the real world, people deal with and/or respond to criticism. In the crypto fantasy world, all of that is resolved just by calling it "fud".

You're a little off base with your history. I make no claim on current usage of the word but saying this was only ever used to wave away obvious and legitimate criticism is not correct.

> In addition to acknowledging that free programs can compete with commercial software in terms of quality, the memorandum calls the free software movement a "long-term credible" threat and warns that employing a traditional Microsoft marketing strategy known as "FUD," an acronym for "fear, uncertainty and doubt," will not succeed against the developers of free software.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/tech/98/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents

edit: and for the record, I'm firmly in the "crypto is a scam" camp

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