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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #215
barbariangrunge wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By viable competitor, do you mean OS that I can’t possibly use for work or for proper gaming? Mac isn’t any more viable than Ubuntu, which is why I have an Ubuntu laptop (But a windows desktop, by utter necessity) (Edit: Actually, when it comes to gaming, Linux is getting better and better) 80% of common tasks isn’t enough when part of the remaining 20% is absolutely necessary for work

I mean, obviously it depends on the work - as if macbooks weren't standard issue at many companies ostensibly doing some kind of work if your cad software or whatever doesn't work with your OS of choice I'd take it up with the vendor

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by viraptor »

naiveai wrote: post #145
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Until and unless Microsoft Office products are on Linux natively and are supported by Microsoft, Linux will never be a mainstream operating system. And that's never going to happen.

This is becoming less and less true every day. Both online office 360 and gsuite are popular in offices these days with no ms office installed on the device. Outside of specific business roles, I haven't seen it in a long while. I've even run into a medical clinic running on libreoffice.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by i_am_proteus »

syeare wrote: post #220
barbariangrunge wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By viable competitor, do you mean OS that I can’t possibly use for work or for proper gaming? Mac isn’t any more viable than Ubuntu, which is why I have an Ubuntu laptop (But a windows desktop, by utter necessity) (Edit: Actually, when it comes to gaming, Linux is getting better and better) 80% of common tasks isn’t enough when part of the remaining 20% is absolutely necessary for work

Can you elaborate? I never had a Mac device before this year, but it can do all the document processing (M$ Office) I need for work/school, almost all audio-related stuff (DAWs and VSTs), and video/photo (ugh I know but Adobe) that I need it to, even though its a brand new chip architecture. It can't do games but I have a M$ desktop just for that and for some rendering stuff

Windows advertising features were bugging me, so I tried to install MacOS on my computer, but Apple told me that I would have to purchase different hardware from them directly if I wanted to run their software.

Seems like MacOS does not run on hardware that is not sold by Apple.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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mancerayder wrote: post #139
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

This message is 20 years old. Many of us long for the utopia of a Linux desktop that just works, where drivers are up to date and X windows doesn't die due to a yum/apt-get update. This feels like a future parody thread where someone will make fun of our comments.

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by vanous »

binarycrusader wrote: post #218
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. There are multiple suites of tests and processes that exist to try to ensure updates preserve user data and preferences but clearly something went wrong here. I’m just a developer, not a spokesperson, but I want to ensure that this is investigated if possible. If you file a bug in feedback hub under the Windows Update category it…

> Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc.

Thanks for your apology. I can imagine this could happen to some random unknown software team but not to the supposed leader of the desktop. I believe this is honest apology but I am not sure I can trust that the issue was a bug and not a feature.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by tormeh »

vips7L wrote: post #102
mhh__ wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soo niche except for 99.99999% of devs

A lot of devs don’t want to tinker with Linux. Myself included. And this is disregarding all of the work places that only give out Windows or MacOS machines.

No tinkering required. Tinkering can be tempting and dangerous, but if you keep yourself in check it's just not a thing you need to do. Unless you install Arch, but then you deserve what you get. Just install Ubuntu or Pop and you'll be fine.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by howinteresting »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #201
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #123

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> Windows is still my favourite OS Now there's an unpopular opinion if anything. I've heard the "yeah it's kind of shit, but the games/applications I use only really work with Windows" a million times, but this one is kind of new. Edit: this comment was indeed intended to be read in the context of HN crowd.

You don't know anyone that prefers Windows? It sounds like you're a bit out-of-touch. Anyone who is familiar with Windows is going to prefer it over the alternative which, in reality, the only alternative that most people would use is macOS. People in my life who prefer Windows include: * Pretty much anyone who went to school with me K-12, since that's what we primarily used * Anyone who was in my CS program in colle…

A bit of an aside, but CS and software engineering programs should be based on FOSS to the greatest extent possible, with proprietary software only being used when necessary. The idea that CS programs would use Windows or macOS by default is pretty horrifying to me.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by thesuperbigfrog »

naiveai wrote: post #145
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Until and unless Microsoft Office products are on Linux natively and are supported by Microsoft, Linux will never be a mainstream operating system. And that's never going to happen.

My Android phone runs native Microsoft Office apps, so we are half-way there.

I am just waiting for Microsoft to give up on Windows-on-Arm and instead create a Microsoft-branded Linux distribution that has an actual Windows subsystem for Linux (that is, a compatibility / emulation layer similar to Wine or Proton to run legacy Windows software).

Decades of backward compatibility makes Windows a resource hog. I do not think it can make the jump to Arm or RISC-V easily.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by the_gipsy »

binarycrusader wrote: post #218
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. There are multiple suites of tests and processes that exist to try to ensure updates preserve user data and preferences but clearly something went wrong here. I’m just a developer, not a spokesperson, but I want to ensure that this is investigated if possible. If you file a bug in feedback hub under the Windows Update category it…

Sibling comments indicate that the behavior is an intentional Dark Pattern. You can sleep tight and write it off to the PO.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by atty »

Jasper_ wrote: post #28
null_object wrote: post #13

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> It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows I’m genuinely intrigued by which approval dialogs and notifications you find so hostile in MacOS? If it’s SIP or Gatekeeper you’re talking about, there are easily implemented workarounds. Otherwise I really can’t think of any “notifications” from the OS

I have a MacBook I use occasionally for work. I don't have an AppleID and don't want to make one (same as Microsoft Account). Every time I boot the system, there are about 20 untagged login prompts and have to manually cancel.

That’s interesting. I have a MacBook for work with no Apple ID and I don’t think I’ve ever been asked to sign into anything. I wonder if there are fleet management controls my company is using to disable a lot of that stuff.
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