Or, use DuckDuckGo which allows you to turn off ads without paying.
Yeah, and also powers Bing. So all you're doing is feeding Bing with search queries for their own algorithm.
Brave launches private search ads
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Re: Brave launches private search ads
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate that ads are now seen as a necessary evil for funding free access to services. The money still comes from you, just through the purchase of products. What's worse, if you pay for YouTube Premium or Kagi, you're effectively paying for your content twice. No wonder, poorer people can't afford that. I guess you could frame it like this: "Company are overcharging us by insane amounts anyways, so at least some of t…
>What's worse, if you pay for YouTube Premium or Kagi, you're effectively paying for your content twice. No wonder, poorer people can't afford that. How is this true with YT premium? There are no ads if you pay.
Or with Kagi?
Re: Brave launches private search ads
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Will manifest 3 really kill modern ad blockers? Like adguard and ublock won’t work as they do now in some upcoming Blink/Chromium version?
That is correct. The creator of uBlock Origin, gorhill, made a post about it [0], and uBlock Origin actually works better in Firefox than in other browsers apparently [1]. [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss... [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
Your information is outdated. gorhill also released a version of uBlock Origin that runs just fine on Manifest v3.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is correct. The creator of uBlock Origin, gorhill, made a post about it [0], and uBlock Origin actually works better in Firefox than in other browsers apparently [1]. [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss... [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
Your information is outdated. gorhill also released a version of uBlock Origin that runs just fine on Manifest v3.
Just fine based on the limitations that were given, ie Manifest V3, but it is still better on Firefox.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
#235This statement (second paragraph) > Ads are a key part of search engines, helping to facilitate the free and open exchange of information on the Web, and to connect users to helpful products and services related to their search terms. Is just non sequitur for me. It's said in such a smooth way, in such a gaslight-ish way, that your tempted to just accept it. But it actually makes no sense to me. I get what ads are ke…
I take an "ad-optimistic" stance. For the most part, the economy doesn't need a lot of ads in crowded markets: the brand of soft drink or toothpaste you buy isn't going to vary substantially, and any deal-breaker in a certain brand is one you'll pick up on without an ad. But the stuff you didn't even know existed is where ads can add something. Word of mouth doesn't always give the answers you need, especially as the…
I too find value in ads when I'm in a position to want to be exposed to advertisements. I don't understand why that should or need be the default experience. I pay for Kagi, it's quite nice. If I am feeling like I can't find a product I'm looking for and word of mouth isn't cutting it, then I may elect to expose myself to ads. I'd argue it's almost unethical to expose people to the manipulation that is consumer advertising without their consent.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct me if I am wrong, but can't we just remove all Firefox telemetry by unchecking these options in Privacy & Security: 1) Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla 2) Allow Firefox to make personalized extension recommendations 3) Allow Firefox to install and run studies 4) Allow Firefox to send backlogged crash reports on your behalf I understand they're selected by default so they're coll…
No, you have to use policies to completely disable telemetry.
Thank you, encryptluks2. Found them.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
#237After all the Brave controversies [0] I'm not sure why anyone uses Brave anymore. They took creators' money while ostensibly "collecting" it for them, and they inserted their own affiliate links when you visited certain sites. It's just shady behavior all around. I mean, when you have your own "Controversies" section on Wikipedia, you know there's something wrong. Especially with Manifest v3 looming which would kill…
> After all the Brave controversies "Brave's controversies" are not really about Brave. Brave as a company is not above criticism and should be harshly gone after for their mistakes when they do anything less than perfect with regards to privacy or anything else. I think they've done over 90% of things right, but have screwed up a small portion of the complicated stuff (new browser, new online advertising models, and…
Every one of those "few errors" involved other people's money, hijacking advertisements, etc. I don't even know what Brendan Eich's political beliefs are, except inasmuch as he decided to build a cryptocurrency scheme into his product, but I won't touch Brave with a ten-foot pole.
Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes it's just people deciding the thing you like isn't good enough for them.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But I don't see how they increase the free and open exchange of information on the web. I think I can help explain. Almost all search engine users (~95%+) only scan the first 10-20 results on a query, and those results are dominated by sites that have the budget to spend on SEO. Buying ads gives other voices a chance to break through. Depending on the niche it can be far more expensive to be on the first page of se…
Ads give other voices with money to spend a chance to break through. This is very far from anything relevant either to "free" or "open" web interactions.
have you not navigated around the modern web? It’s virtually full of SEO spam. An entire profession has been created around the space, the SEO space is a cat and mouse game with Google’s algo. It is dominated by large firms with enough $ to have a team of SEO pros and tons of content.
Re: Brave launches private search ads
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> You can, at least for Youtube - the premium offering is ad-free. ad-free =/= surveillance free.
Please offer some proof that Google does more surveillance than Brave.
Assuming that's a good faith question (I'm skeptical), let's click through some random HN headlines and use uMatrix to count how many requests for Javascript and other garbage are being made to Google servers, and how many are made to Brave's servers.
First off: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/mastering-stratego-the-classic...
By my count that has two requests to googleapis.com, one to gstatic.com, and one to googletagmanager, but none to any Brave sites.
Next up: https://www.thefire.org/news/free-speech-culture-elon-musk-a...
Requests googletagmanager, but nothing from Brave.
Next: https://www.countbayesie.com/blog/2022/11/30/understanding-c...
Makes requests to googletagmanager ang googleapis.com. Brave completely missing.
And: https://twitter.com/coinbasewallet/status/159835481973503180...
Sends requests to google-analytics.com, but Brave is a no show again
And finally: https://jakespracher.medium.com/machines-and-chaos-9f0e87eeb...
Which uses google-analytics, but nothing from Brave.
Practically every commercial website on the internet has Google spyware tied in somehow. And just to spell it out, every time your browser sends a request to one of the Google servers, they're keeping track and surveiling you.