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Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by cosmojg » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:02 PM UTC

snoot wrote: post #142

jackmott42 wrote: post #45

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Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

> tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so many of you will defend this terrible situation. There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use. I have a Mac, and I also have Linux machines. Nothing is stopping people learning about computers. Why would anyone spe…

> Why would anyone spend $1000 on a computer from Apple if it’s not what they want?

Because marketing.

Then again, maybe the truth is that what people really want isn't the best tool for the job but the best-marketed tool for the job, and they spend their money accordingly.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by vel0city » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

411111111111111 wrote: post #174

vbezhenar wrote: post #123

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I'm pretty sure this is not true. They slow down the device when battery can't provide enough current to sustain unthrottled CPU. Its happening in the latest iOS. It happened with my 5 year phone few months ago which suddenly turned off. I don't even feel this throttling but it doesn't turn off anymore. On an unrelated note, my Google Pixel 7 just hanged up. It didn't happen to me since windows XP I think. It's the w…

I've got a pixel 6. Its honestly been a disaster as far as I'm concerned. It's way less stable then my previous 300€ Motorola with stock Android was.

Do you happen to use Firefox? I've found a lot of my stability issues on my 6a were related to Firefox on my phone. Installing firefox beta, going to about:config, and setting apz.overscroll.enabled to false seems to have fixed all the stability issues I was having.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by lopkeny12ko » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #118

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #97

We heard about this over 2 weeks ago https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/10/airdrop-10-minute-limit... This is not in response to this particular protest. iOS16 just dropped, so the timing was coincidental I guess.

If you don’t believe this is in response to protest then how do you explain it being rushed out ONLY IN CHINA?

When you work on software available globally, it's very normal to deploy or roll out features region-by-region. This seems par for the course.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by snoot » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

westhom wrote: post #226

klodolph wrote: post #207

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Apple lets you install custom apps on Macs, it’s just iOS devices where it’s a pain. On iOS devices, you have to use a developer account to sideload the app and it only works for a short time, IIRC. I’m fuzzy on the details because the places where I’ve worked, it mostly just worked although the experience was way, way better on Android. At one point I was on a team that ran a system for deploying apps for sideloadin…

I believe the right click method for opening an unsigned app no longer works as of MacOS Ventura. It appears to work on your own computer but once someone downloads it and tries to run on a new computer, you can’t get around it through regular UI, I think.

It does still work, but you need to change the gatekeeper settings to allow it.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #19

elicash wrote: post #7

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Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

https://twitter.com/TinaDesireeBerg/status/15955262149359042... To summarize: Elon Musk: "No far left accounts have been banned from twitter" Commenter: "False, here are four examples" Elon Musk: Suspends commenters account. Champion of free speech indeed. Here is same info summarized in newsweek, since we've all learned how trustworthy twitter screenshots are in recent weeks https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse…

https://i.ibb.co/dDp0HQW/Smart-Select-20221128-150152-Firefo...

I uploaded the screenshot to this direct link

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by snoot » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #220

gambiting wrote: post #168

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>>There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use. I just don't understand this argument. Never did and I don't think I ever will. If apple allowed you to install custom apps, it would change NOTHING for your 80+ year old mother. Literally nothing. Her device would still be just as safe and secure as ever before.

> If apple allowed you to install custom apps, it would change NOTHING for your 80+ year old mother. Literally nothing. Her device would still be just as safe and secure as ever before. Not it would not still be as safe. Malware and scams would come with instructions to install their custom bad app. “Install this custom Deals app to save money”

Exactly this. People forget that most of hacking is social engineering.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by baxtr » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:04 PM UTC

blamazon wrote: post #200

baxtr wrote: post #157

Ok, so people jump directly to the conclusion that this was introduced because the CCP asked for it. Yet, if that was the case why limit it only? Why not ask for a complete stop? Is there a case where a protestor benefits from AirDrop but only if it’s more than 10 minutes?

It's pretty simple: sometimes people do want to receive airdrops from anybody in a state approved way - when someone is not your contact, but you want them to send you something. Your distant uncle took a photo at a family gathering, for example. Thus, previously, users in China could set their phone to be able to receive airdrops from anybody, all the time. But, problem! Now they can receive information antithetical…

Sorry. That’s not convincing. How can a 10min limit suppress protests? You’re not answering the question, just telling a story.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:04 PM UTC

travisgriggs wrote: post #145

I'm a little confused by the "Apple's doing bad here" sentiment. The easier to implement, and definitely more effective solution would have been to just disable the Everyone feature completely. Just remove it from the menu. This would have been something like action.isEnabled = self.isInChina Instead, they went through the effort to actually make it still there, but time bombed. They had to add a timeout function, an…

I guess it works both ways though. If everyone had it on, you can't easily arrest every iPhone user. And people could spread information really quickly. Now you have to turn it on for 10 minutes at a time so you aren't organising that mass protest as fast.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by jdmoreira » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:04 PM UTC

lemondice wrote: post #131

jdmoreira wrote: post #99

are people really surprised the world biggest corporation has to cave to the worlds second largest economy? What do people expect really? Do people even understand the kind of incentives at play here? What does this have to do with the quality of their products? Apple is an artificial entity, a corporation and it's only loyalty by design is with the wallets of it's shareholders. What's surprising about this?

In actual practice corporations are only loyal to the board of directors and the officers. Shareholders are just the suckers used to jack up the share price.

You are right of course. But by definition of the law / "algorithm", it should be all shareholders

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by blamazon » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 9:04 PM UTC

huslage wrote: post #53

In what way does this censor anyone? Censorship would be Apple disabling Airdrop altogether, not coming up with some compromise so that its users could still do their work.

Imagine you want to invite a lot of people you don't know, to a protest. This is generally really difficult to do in China without being spotted for re-education. In contrast, Airdrop was previously a good way to do this discreetly. Now it's useless. That is censorship.