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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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This is crap. 9 Eastern European countries in the former Soviet sphere joined NATO and the EU and are currently going through one of their longest periods of growth and peace in their history. There can be no long term prosperity with Russia.

They are being bled dry of everything the’ve got for the Western European elite. The benefits go to the upper classes while the working people suffer.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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I just donated to the Ukrainian army. They’re people too, and deserve the best medical and logistic support money can buy. The ruling class in Moscow isn’t just attacking some other ruling class. They’re attacking _my_ Europe. I don’t care about any military-industrial complex, or even the military in general. But the moment that some misguided person decides to launch rockets at Europe, I’m not willing to just sit b…

This is effectively no different than donating money to the United States military. I can hardly imagine a more ridiculous thing to do with money.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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This thread is mostly full of jokes, and that's cool. But more seriously I'm exactly the kind of person I suppose this is meant to appeal to. I've spent the last 2-3 decades breaking into systems. Many of these systems comprise what the US calls "critical infrastructure". That's pipelines, power generation, transmission, distribution. Air traffic control systems. Government agencies. I'm based in the US. The problem…

There are plenty of independent clandestine attackers from the US and they interact with the US government through DISA, which might confuse you if you take their name literally. The government is looking the other way and isn't looking or trying to bring their domestic hackers to justice.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Aren't Russian computer systems already beyond the protection of US law?

Why would they be? If you're physically in the US and commit a crime, I think it's still a US crime even if the victim is outside the US. I doubt the US would prosecute you though for hacking Russia.

I remeber a video from the grugq where he said he has a "friend" who pirated Iran targets directly from US IPs because he knew he had no chance of being extraded.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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If you don't want to engage on the offensive side, there is plenty of work on the defensive side of things. * Detect and notify the Ukrainian government about threats or upcoming attacks. * Identify coordinated manipulative behaviour on social media. * Last but not least contact Patreon's management to release the funds that have been donated to Ukrainian veterans ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30461038 ) Fee…

Sorry but what? * It looks like there won't be a Ukrainian government to speak of in a few days. * Manipulative behaviour has been identified on twitter and Facebook almost every day for the last few years, and it hasn't really led to much anything. The Ukrainian government can't do anything about that, if the independent banana republics of FAANG don't decide to act, nothing is gonna change. * Likewise for patreon.…

You are probably downvoted for - voluntarily or involuntarily (I cannot judge) - running the errands of the enemies of the free world by suggesting that it is hopeless while it is absolutely not.

(Why is it not hopeless? Russian forces suffer large losses and their morale is breaking, after all, what sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neigbours and relatives? Russians are already taking to the streets to protest the madness one day into this stupid war, who would have expected such bravery from the already suffering Russian people? Half of the European population is already looking for anything they can do to support Ukraine, ordinary Russians raising up or to make Putin and his closest people suffer. Pro Russian trolls who were previously tolerated since we wanted to hear all sides are now kept down. The list probably goes on.)

Every free human is now at war, and for now, for us it is information warfare.

So lets make sure the madmen get nothing for free. Don't run their errands.

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Reminder to other readers: don't take legal advice from hn

Reminder to people who didn't grow up in the US: Americans are by and large a bloodthirsty, vindictive lot and pay an astounding amount of attention to who their friends are. This is sometimes a force for evil, sometimes a force for good, but it is what it is. Sure, don't take legal advice from me. Use a VPN.

> Reminder to people who didn't grow up in the US: Americans are by and large a bloodthirsty, vindictive lot

I'd take away "by and large" here.

Many of them are also exceedingly generous, open and friendly and cares deeply. This holds true for both sides of the political spectrum.

They've also suffered a lot to end two world wars that they didn't start.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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The only sanction that has enough teeth to so anything is to remove Russia from SWIFT. Without Germany’s backing, this will not happen. In addition to boycotting Russia, citizens of the world should be boycotting German products until they agree to ban Russia from SWIFT. Putin is risking World War III and Germany has decided to let it slide to avoid some short-term economic pain. Not cool.

None of countries which depend on gas/oil from Russia would like it, included Ukraine, Baltic states, Poland and so on who pay them everyday.

Blocking Russia from SWIFT would kill half of EU economy.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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I'm Ukrainian activist for 10+ years, have been on Maidan, etc, know many other activists. Unfortunately, we have not seen understanding with any government. Looks like, all people who got to government or state organizations, work on classical totalitarian scheme - "for friends all the best, for all others - severity of the law". Mean, system is so much disbalanced, that any government got totalitarian power and doe…

There is 6 major organizations which one accept your donations right now. http://www.helpukraine.xyz

And Bank of Ukraine accept wire transfers as well. But I just donated to Come Back Alive cause I don't trust the bank of Ukraine effectively using the money.

Donate and help Ukraine!

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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This is crap. 9 Eastern European countries in the former Soviet sphere joined NATO and the EU and are currently going through one of their longest periods of growth and peace in their history. There can be no long term prosperity with Russia.

They are being bled dry of everything the’ve got for the Western European elite. The benefits go to the upper classes while the working people suffer.

Coming from ex-USSR... Western European elite is much much much better than Russian elite...
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