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Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

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Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#231
I do this with two mice (well, one mouse and a trackpad).

I had pretty bad repetitive strain in my right wrist. I realized it kicks in after using the mouse for too long. So now when I feel my right wrist start to complain (every few minutes) I just switch to the trackpad with my left hand.

It also helps a ton to just learn keyboard shortcuts for everything.

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#232
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Kinesis has also their freestyle-line, which are physically splitted keyboard. But traditionally, the name refers to the split of the key-segments, not the whole keyboard. Until a decade ago, there barely where any real split keyboards, and split segments was the mainstream. Indeed, I saw the title of this post and I wondered if the poster was looking for a setup similar to the Freestyle... and it turns out they we…

Just to be clear on the distinction, are we terming 'split segment' the keyboards in two halves that have (roughly) half the usual keys on each device, and saying purist's 'split keyboard' is.. two 'normal' keyboards? Nothing is 'split' in the latter though? I've never thought 'split keyboard' a misnomer in referring to two pieces that look like a keyboard sawn (often carefully around staggered keycaps) in half, i.e.…

No. It's hard to explain, but split segment looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/kjWmciy (so, one physical keyboard, just with a very different layout)

Split keyboards are usually 2 separate keyboards with half the key each.

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This guy seems to have given up too soon. There are also normal spilt keyboards like the UHK. And even cheaper Chinese options like the Mistel Barocco. These Chinese keyboards are what most people should get if they need a split keyboard. Normal keyboard layout, just split. Connected by a coiled USBC to USBC cable that you could replace with a longer cable. I use the Mistel which fine for me. The layout never bothere…

Well I for one will say I did a lot of research on split boards about a year ago and never came across Mistel. It even has my preferred tenkeyless arrow placement!

Yeah, it’s hard to get information about them and they have the weird names. I only know about them because certain suppliers around here stock them and a friend had some other mechanical keyboard from them.

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#235

> I tried a few of those Kinesis split keyboards. Too squishy for me. Not far enough apart. The CherryMX Kinesis split keyboard was is too clickey for calls and screenshares. Muscle memory made it difficult to switch. This is a really cool hack, and I’m happy that the author found a solution for their pain that works for them, but this bit confused me. Kinesis are keyboards with separated key clusters, but not split…

Having recently gotten back into mechanical keyboards, partially for ergonomic reasons, I can say the Moonlander so far is the single board I regret purchasing. Almost $400 for a board that is so poorly designed you have to choose between a usable thumb cluster position or a comfortable tenting angle, because the thumb cluster is used as one of the tenting legs. So unless you have giant hands, it's just a very poor e…

I’m hooked on the ergodox classic, but I’ve used an ergodox variant of some kind for at least 6 years now and won’t go back.

The little ortho-linear keyboards that are popular now make me cringe, they look worse than laptop keyboards.

I was toying with the idea of picking up the moonlander, but it looks kind of big. The wrist rests seem ridiculously large. Can you use the tenting feature without them?

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#237

If you're interested in split keyboards, check out the Keyboard.io Model 100[1], which will be shipping in January. They're a reputable company, having already successfully sold the Model 01 and Atreus with great success. Jesse and Kaia are great folk and send regular updates on the production. Why Model 100 over other split boards like the Moonlander or Ergodox? 1. Sculpted keycaps take the ortholinear split board t…

In regards to point 1, ortholinear sculpted keys are available for the Ergodox. I use one due to a wrist injury.

TIL. ThatIf you're referring to the DCS sculpted keycaps which come with the EZ[2], they're still not quite the same. Keyboard.io Models 01 and 100 use different shapes for (nearly?) every key. At the edges of the keyboard, it's particularly noticeable: the outer edges are ramped inwards.

The downside of individually sculpted caps is, of course, compatibility with other keycap sets.

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#238

> I tried a few of those Kinesis split keyboards. Too squishy for me. Not far enough apart. The CherryMX Kinesis split keyboard was is too clickey for calls and screenshares. Muscle memory made it difficult to switch. This is a really cool hack, and I’m happy that the author found a solution for their pain that works for them, but this bit confused me. Kinesis are keyboards with separated key clusters, but not split…

I have the kinesis with 20" cable. wish it were slightly longer for cases like 'one side on the couch arm', but it's a million times better than angling my hand around a laptop touchpad

layout slightly awkward. escape key is off in the wilderness, keep hitting F1 by accident. Wouldn't mind Y and B keys duplicated so I can hit them with either hand.

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#239

> I tried a few of those Kinesis split keyboards. Too squishy for me. Not far enough apart. The CherryMX Kinesis split keyboard was is too clickey for calls and screenshares. Muscle memory made it difficult to switch. This is a really cool hack, and I’m happy that the author found a solution for their pain that works for them, but this bit confused me. Kinesis are keyboards with separated key clusters, but not split…

Having recently gotten back into mechanical keyboards, partially for ergonomic reasons, I can say the Moonlander so far is the single board I regret purchasing. Almost $400 for a board that is so poorly designed you have to choose between a usable thumb cluster position or a comfortable tenting angle, because the thumb cluster is used as one of the tenting legs. So unless you have giant hands, it's just a very poor e…

Though I haven't gotten one yet, the Kyria also has some nice thumb clusters. You can print out the layout[1] to test how it lines up with your fingers.

[1] https://docs.splitkb.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010627159-Can-...

Re: Using two keyboards at once for pain relief

#240
post #139

It's not about the keyboard. It's about the lack of a strength building regime. Humans are not built to sit behind a desk. A strength training regime like Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5x5 is what the average office worker needs to survive their career RSI free into old age

I love both Starting Strength and Stronglifts and I think exercise is absolutely critical for everyone, especially knowledge workers. I lift daily, but I still get RSI. Maybe I'm an anomaly, but I think you might be painting too broad a brush with this prescription.

A muscle imbalance in the shoulders from years of mouse use will almost certainly cause some form of neck pain, as will anterior pelvic tilt from an undeveloped posterior from years of sitting in a chair. Typing related injuries in the elbow occur because the tendons - and the muscles surrounding the tendons - are too weak to support something as simple as typing. So long as you're smart and your hands aren't stretching across the keyboard you're not going to develop something sinister-to-treat like the emacs pinky.

Take care of yourself. There's certainly more of us on here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17132938

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