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Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by Donckele »

kafkaIncarnate wrote: post #220
Santosh83 wrote: post #213

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Wait what? The NSA is sure as hell not interested in third world suffering. I'm pretty sure they're far interested & occupied with breaking crypto, hacking China/Russia, getting into Iranian/DPRK nuclear centrifuges than in child slavery, which is a shame, but that is how it is. It's an American agency serving the interests of the American govt, not necessarily victims elsewhere.

Who said they "cared"? I said intercepted. They basically intercept everything, and specifically will capture everything they monitor of terrorists. > In the years since 9/11, police raids of terrorist cells in the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain have yielded countless images of hard-core child pornography. https://nypost.com/2015/02/17/why-are-jihadis-so-obsessed-wi... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nsa-porn-muslims…

OMG! You just copy pasted from the internet that makes a link from 9/11 to CP and then you want to do the dishes? YAF!

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by ArneBab »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #161
SilverRed wrote: post #128

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What is the discard policy? If I upload 10TB of random junk, where does it go and how long will it be stored?

It'll go to random nodes, and if those chunks have zero popularity they'll get discarded pretty quickly. The exact details would depend on client settings but probably don't matter for a general answer.

For content that is never accessed, you have lifetimes between 2 weeks (bigger than 4 MiB) and 3 months (smaller than 2kiB).

Content that is accessed regularly can stay around indefinitely.

Some of the sites of Freenet are older than a decade and still working well.

To see the actual measurements, you need to run Freenet and access the fetch-pull-stats: USK@lwR9sLnZD3QHveZa1FB0dAHgeck~dFNBg368mY09wSU,0Vq~4FXSUj1-op3QdzqjZsIvrNMYWlnSdUwCl-Z1fYA,AQACAAE/fetchpullstats/537/

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by ArneBab »

EGreg wrote: post #112
alanweber22 wrote: post #57

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In what ways does maidsafe improve upon freenet?

Far far more advanced — it splits data into chunks, encrypts it end to end, uses a Kademlia DHT which removes the IP addresses after the first hop so no one can find all the nodes, has consensus about the files and their evolution, and uses later cryptographic primitives like BLS keys etc. etc. https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-vs-freenet-i2p-ipfs/9409

None of the points you note here are advantages of maidsafe over Freenet — except maybe the later crypto primitives (though these aren’t necessarily safer).

But your link has one important point: "Freenet…is more a exchange and communication system instead [of] a data management system as Maidsafe".

The goal of Freenet is censorship resistant communication. That is its focus and the origin of almost all its features.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by ArneBab »

mhitza wrote: post #191
kafkaIncarnate wrote: post #152

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More like pictures of modern child abuse, child slavery (IE: ownership, sale, etc), and brutal torturous murder. Basically anything you've thought of the NSA or other intelligence agencies intercepting, it was wide out in the open there. The types of things you'd see kids telling themselves about urban legends of the "darkweb", well, it was extremely real and in the open on Freenet...

You mean like the early 2000's 4chan random board? Sarcasm aside, that experience sounds similar to what I've seen when trying out freenet way back. On the other hand my I2P experience was quite pleasant (by just following the planet.i2p stream, basically an announcement site for new "registered" domains and torrents), with easy discovery of downloadable leaks, anarchist and conspiracy theorist blogs. Really felt lik…

> way back

Maybe you should try again. It is quite a different experience nowadays (if you just use what you see and don’t go digging for stuff to get angry about — if you do the latter, you’ll also find "the internet" to be a place full of disgusting evil).

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by ArneBab »

azalemeth wrote: post #32
samsquire wrote: post #18

You have to go out of your way to find abusive media on freenet. There are many top lists of freesites and they are censored of abusive media. I recommend FMS the freenet messaging system which uses web of trust successfully to moderate messages in a Usenet forum.

Out of curiosity, what sort of things are on freenet? Is it worth installing it in a Tails VM?

What I see are mostly opinion blogs (lots of technical and political stuff), forums and some media-sites. The most recent pretty unique site I saw was a mario64 fansite.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by R0b0t1 »

Flocular wrote: post #79

Still haven solved the CSAM problem, so the public servers are off limits. The private infrastructure solution always looked interesting to me, but I'm missing any actual application ideas for that?

You can't solve "the CSAM problem." Anything robust to censorship has this issue. Just don't look for it.

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by pentae »

ogurechny wrote: post #144
ta988 wrote: post #102

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I am glad it evolved a bit, it used to host a lot of child porn, nazi/fascist material etc And clearly you would be exposed to it through messages or not well annotated index.

This is interesting, I don't remember seeing more than trace amounts of “nazi/fascist material” there at all. Sure, someone has probably thought that the world needs another copy of Mein Kampf, or has had a real important story of how Jews did 9/11, and maybe these freesites are still (partially) available after a decade or so (I am not at all bothered to check, to be honest), but general amount of such loonies has d…

I mean, you can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon so it's probably not the best example

Re: Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication

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Post by robertlagrant »

notriddle wrote: post #113
h_anna_h wrote: post #72

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> which got us Trump and the current antivax movement I think that you are stretching it a bit here. Claiming that individualism is responsible for that seems unsubstantiated.

It’s a stretch to blame “absolute rights” for Trump’s election. That can be placed pretty solidly on xenophobia. The anti-maskers? The only reason those guys think they have a case is exactly because they think bodily autonomy has no limits.

> That can be placed pretty solidly on xenophobia.

It can be, but it probably shouldn't be.

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