Professional mercenary sports played by international athletes is a poor substitute for regional identity. Man U has as much to do with Manchester as CocaCola does and this new league just makes that undeniable.
have you ever lived in manchester?
US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer
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> If you support one of those top five or six clubs - good for you. If you don't, then you don't have a realistic chance of seeing a league win in your lifetime. And yet right now two of the top 6 teams are not the "6 big clubs" - Leicester and West Ham. Liverpool, who walked the season last year, are doing about as well as Everton. Man City, who are currently top, lost just 2 weeks ago against Leeds - at home. I'm s…
>Wimbledon in the 3rd tier. "Only took nine years" to get back in to the league. Getting promotion on ** merit. Not buying a place. Then eventually beating the Franchise and watching them get relegated. Sweet sweet justice. Now with a fans funded new stadium. Football is beautiful. Even on a wet cold night in stoke.
> Even on a wet cold night in stoke.
Are there any others?
Stoke and Port Vale are unlikely to be winning the premier any time soon, but that's not the point - Stoke thrashed Liverpool 6-1 in 2015, and that's Football. I'm no fan, and If I were I'd support wolves, but I can appreciate that win will have made Stoke fans delighted.
From reading this hn discussion (the only place I've seen ESL defended), it seems that fans of the American style system (which yougov put as less than 10%) think that winning at the end of the season is all that matters.
Re: US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you support one of those top five or six clubs - good for you. If you don't, then you don't have a realistic chance of seeing a league win in your lifetime. And yet right now two of the top 6 teams are not the "6 big clubs" - Leicester and West Ham. Liverpool, who walked the season last year, are doing about as well as Everton. Man City, who are currently top, lost just 2 weeks ago against Leeds - at home. I'm s…
Your in depth knowledge of the stats for years gone by is truly impressive. These events, this is why we love the beautiful game
In fact I don't particularly like football - being brought up in a house with a wolves loving grandfather, father and brother sort of turned me against it. I watch an average of about 1 game on TV every 12-18 months.
But I appreciate for many people, football isn't a matter of life and death - it's far more important. For tens of millions in the UK, it's not about the winning, or the losing, it's about the battle.
Re: US owners find greed doesn't play well in European soccer
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I think that's why the golden era of Man Utd (last 15ish years with Fergie at the helm) wasn't that good for American fans. Yea, it brought in some (me)... but after a while, I found myself not caring about seeing a game if it wasn't against Chelsea or Liverpool. Even then... After 2 years of that... whoopie... Man Utd got another win against, oh look an ant is struggling to carry a cookie crumb. That and diving. Ser…
> Rugby and hockey have that shit figured out, why cant they? Something else they could learn from rugby, respect for the officials. The number of times you see football players chasing after or arguing with the referee is just embarrassing. Rugby officials don't stand for it, neither should football officials.
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