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(200,000 short tons) / (130,000 pounds lifting capacity) = 3,076 Spruce... Geese.
I'm imagining an incredible system of hooks setup so that the fleet of Spruce Gooses pass over at low altitude and speed, snare the hooks, and YOINK pull it right out in one pass.
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It's a lot of containers.
it's a quarter mile long. You can probably have 10 helicopters working at once while still keeping safe distances. Each helicopter has a crew of 4 on the boat and 4 on the shore. They hook 4 chains to the 4 corner hoists of each container. Say it takes 1 minutes per container to affix the chains, 1 minute to fly to the sand, 1 minute to unhitch, and 1 minute to fly back. Thats a lot slower than agricultural helicopte…
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I read that there aren't any tall enough cranes in that area to do it, so they're considering unloading some containers by helicopter.
Even if you could unload a container per minute you could only unload less than 1000 containers per day (assuming it's too dangerous to work at night) so at least 3 weeks of continuous helicopter operations.
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It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.
It's hilariously arrogant too.
Exactly the same thing. Just not on a public board. Just like everyone else is doing when discussing problems they face in any line of work.
Since it's unlikely anyone here has any decision making power relevant to the Suez canal, look at this discussion as an exercise in group problem solving. Sharpening the saw.
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The Dutch national news had an interview with the CEO of Boskalis, which is the company hired to unlodge the ship. They have one team on the ground atm and another building computer simulations exactly to calculate how much oil and ballast they can pump out (to lighten the ship up and make it easier to tow) without endangering the stability of the ship. Apparently they had a similar case (same size of ship) a few yea…
do you mean this case? https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d... that was the very same ship EDIT: no, the incident needing 12 tugs was a different ship. see comment below.
~15% of the World's trade is dependent on it and this is taking much longer than expected. Why?
It's stuck like a couch in a stairwell.
And all you have to remove it is a pin. So, this is going to take a while.
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It does legitimately seem like you can do tremendous damage by derailing a few ships in the right spots. Bringing bombs or other small ships or something else seems doable for a terrorist organization on the face of it.
This is true more generally. When I lived in London and the IRA campaign was going on I never understood why they didn't just set fire to a few stolen vans on Euston road/City road/Waterloo bridge every morning rather than actually killing people. Would have been more effective.
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How about creating a mini-dam surrounding the vessel and raising the water level so it can turn. Or stopping the current at 90% of the ship and letting it push to the front ( if it's in the right direction), perhaps in combination with gigantic sails ( if there's enough wind) and/or sucking sand/mud from the bottom.
Apparently, there are no watertight gates anywhere near. Filling in the entire canal is unrealistic.
The Egyptians had a bad experience with that in the past though and lost a lot of gear and many men in an incident. Might be understandable if they didn’t want to do that again.
I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
Crazy idea : Can we roll it into the water by pulling it over high strength rollers of some sort ? It would be pretty cool to use the same technique that was use to build the pyramids.
Somebody call Elon. Get the TBMs, and set them to work building a tunnel under the ship.
Now fill the tunnel with giant rubber bladders.
Call the Saudis and have them start shipping over helium. Fill the bladders with helium.
Okay, keep the saudis around and get them to bring over one of the high pressure water drilling rigs that they use for oil. Start digging out the sand above the bladders, and float them up to be UNDER the ship.
Okay now call the Dutch. Get them to bring over some MASSIVE water pumps and some damming equipment. The two guys on excavators can help. Dam up the canal on both sides of the ship, and pump out all the water.
The bladders become rollers. Roll that ship back into the middle of the canal.
Okay now repump the canal, and float the ship away. Bam. Done!
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Is there a reason they couldn't have a smaller crane on board and dump them over the side. Surely even losing the cargo would be cheaper than keeping it blocked at this point?
If you dump the containers over the side, you managed to remove a ship blocking the canal, but now it's blocked by containers.