Do you know why half of the internet is using evergiven when on all the photos is written evergreen?
The name of the company is Evergreen. All their ships start with Ever. This ship is Evergiven.
"Ever Grounded"?
Is that ship still stuck?
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#32Principle of maximal irony prediction: the ship rolls over while trying to free it and the suez gets littered with containers, takes even longer to clear it.
The Dutch national news had an interview with the CEO of Boskalis, which is the company hired to unlodge the ship. They have one team on the ground atm and another building computer simulations exactly to calculate how much oil and ballast they can pump out (to lighten the ship up and make it easier to tow) without endangering the stability of the ship.
Apparently they had a similar case (same size of ship) a few years back on the Elbe in Germany, in the end it took 12 (!) of the largest tugs they had to get it loose.
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#33Do you know why half of the internet is using evergiven when on all the photos is written evergreen?
Because Evergreen is the name of the company that operates the ship [1] and Ever Given is the name of the ship [2].
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#34Do you know why half of the internet is using evergiven when on all the photos is written evergreen?
Evergreen Marine Corporation owns the ship named Ever Given.
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#35Wonder how the data for the actual position of the ship is obtained or if it’s estimated and just hard coded on to the map? I always love sites that are question in the domain with answers in the webpage as the main content.
This is one particular outlet[1] for that data but, AFAIK, all modern commercial vessels continuously report their location via satellite or, preferably, coastal AIS. That data is collected by something then APIs happen along with aggregation and probably more APIs and... after all that, the data is pretty widely available. Ship location isn't considered privileged security information which was a bit surprising to m…
As a small vessel (10 metres) owner and operator, it's quite nice that AIS operates over VHF. I can install an AIS receiver and see precisely what's coming my way, and the instrumentation available to me can predict whether I might collide with the ship, or if I'll pass ahead/behind (I prefer behind). Useful in the dark when distance is hard to gauge.
Saw on twitter the other day that one vessel going past the east coast of Africa had changed their info field (destination I think) to "ARMED GUARD ONBOARD"..
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#36Do you know why half of the internet is using evergiven when on all the photos is written evergreen?
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#37Had rockets not been so regulated, this problem could have easily been solved. It would not be cheap but with a 150million insurance budget it is doable. Egypt is losing 400million in trade every hour. The ship weighs 200 000 tons. You only need to drag it out of the sand, not bring it to LEO. Another option would be a lot of shaped charges but the side effects are much more catastrophic if things go wrong. In the ol…
"The humor of the entire situation suddenly gave way to a run for survival as huge chunks of container blubber fell everywhere."
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#38~15% of the World's trade is dependent on it and this is taking much longer than expected. Why?
My question, for those who know more about this domain than me, is this a problem that enough money could fix? If the governments of the world wrote a $1 trillion blank check, would that be enough to get the ship out in the next 24 hours?
Or is this a problem that money alone can't solve?
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#39I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is.
Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this.
Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's really stuck.
Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen.
It's really stuck. It's probably going to take a couple of weeks to get it unstuck.
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#40Had rockets not been so regulated, this problem could have easily been solved. It would not be cheap but with a 150million insurance budget it is doable. Egypt is losing 400million in trade every hour. The ship weighs 200 000 tons. You only need to drag it out of the sand, not bring it to LEO. Another option would be a lot of shaped charges but the side effects are much more catastrophic if things go wrong. In the ol…
Brute force won't really help here, as the ship does not have the structural integrity to resist the force rocket engines would exert on it. Breaking the ship up would be catastrophic, as clean-up of many pieces would take a lot longer than getting it unstuck.