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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by pixl97 »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #115
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

The old internet with webforums for particular topics, where the moderators knew the posters, was a better model.

Old internet still had problems that we just didn't recognize at the time. Astroturfing in full blast back then, and 4chan like floods happened commonly. And getting popular was a great way to ruin the place.

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Post by offby37years »

GhostVII wrote: post #121
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

Why would big tech voluntarily surrender the unprecedented power to shape worldwide discourse?

"Power intoxicates men. It is never voluntarily surrendered. It must be taken from them." — James F. Byrnes

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by sellyme »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #195
WillPostForFood wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why isn’t it sufficient to not follow Alex Jones? I’ve never seen a tweet by him. Twitter is one of the least pushy platforms in algorithmically pushing content. Just follow people you want to see content from, and unfollow if they tweet things you don’t want to see.

No, it's not enough. Twitter constantly showes me nudes that are liked by some people I follow. I hate this feature. They should be an option to limit your feed only to the people you follow, but it is unlikely we'll see it because it contradicts the platform aim to increase engagement, by hook or by crook.

> They should be an option to limit your feed only to the people you follow

You can functionally get the same thing by using the "list" feature instead of following people.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by jojobas »

cbozeman wrote: post #165
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

The Valley's position on who of the two needs to disappear from the social media landscape has crystallized already.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

edoceo wrote: post #222
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Penistone and Scunthorpe and now Memphis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZdwX4noCE As much as I dislike Twitter (I only really use it for work reasons) they are in a no win situation. They either moderate what people post with a flawed system that will never be 100% or be hounded by the "Why won't anyone think of the children" group.

No win? With hella bank roll and their engineering staff? BS. They've got a path forward but their management needs to see a new model - and they are not innovators/disruptors anymore. Prognosis: twitter will rot more for next 2-5 years and management won't notice till the ticker is affected. It will take a bit for consumer sentiment to reflect. Then we'll see a new CEO, some shake-up and grand announcement. I hope i…

Look at YouTube and the multiple adpocalypses as an example. They have a massive bank roll and engineering staff but still fall foul of journos writing a story about "look at this content next to X's advert. We reached out to X for their take."

which leads to a tanking of CPM, creators getting demonitised over news reporting, content creators self censoring to the determent of those with visiabilty issues (or simply being on mobile with a small screen) as instead of reading out a statement they will display it on screen in fear of YT's bots flagging because of their spoken content.

No content moderation system will be 100% perfect, esp when you take it as a worldwide problem. And (atleast in the western world) facing demands for more and more content moderation.

In an ideal world we should be able to leave it up to the user. But Twitter has self filters for years and centeral filtering on the platform has only increased not decreased.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by offby37years »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #123
offby37years wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, as seen in Russia and India, those thousands of cultures have no wish to be moderated by the self-anointed SV elite.

The moderation by Russian government isn’t something I would wish to any culture.

The US is already at Soviet levels: https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-sovietization-of-the-ameri...

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Post by einpoklum »

dgellow wrote: post #63
h2odragon wrote: post #58

As Twitter has been accepted as the ultimate arbiter of what may be said, I suggest the city of Memphis rename itself "Graceland," thus pleasing all the Elvis fans, boosting tourism, and avoiding sticky complications about legal technicalities.

What about Memphis, Egypt?

Yeah, that's been called "Manf" for probably over a 1,000 years now.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by pixl97 »

leshenka wrote: post #208
i_have_an_idea wrote: post #106

Yeah, can confirm. It does work. I don't suggest trying it, as unlocking your account requires phone no. and email verification... yikes.

I tried to create a Twitter account once. 5 minutes after creation it got suspended and unlocking required a phone no. Same goes for Facebook

Same here. I let it stay suspended. Weeks later it came out that Twitter had a flaw that let anyone see your phone number.

It will be a cold day in hell before I give them my number, and I survived the Texas icepocolypse this year.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by pixl97 »

Gibbon1 wrote: post #87
beckingz wrote: post #49

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And now we'll have the suspension on our record so future suspensions will be more severe. Automated moderation in action!

Random thought of mine was companies use AI to moderate. But potentially malefactors can train the AI to flag harmless stuff. And because of the opaque nature of neural networks there isn't good mechanism to undo it, except by reverting.

The 4chan syndrome. Make common words into racist dogwhistles.
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